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Old 08-03-2014, 03:29 PM   #11
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Yea I'd never wait in line for any beer really... except maybe a couple... and that line would have to have plenty of beer... and food.... and a place to sit.... so maybe a waiting room... or a bar.

Anyway my only real comment is your name is Awesome.

One of my favorite episodes. You're also the first person to make a comment on my username, so props to you!
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Old 08-03-2014, 03:40 PM   #12
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Anything that is even remotely hard to acquire on that list I'll never have, because I'm never going to go through that much trouble to get a beer. I have had Dark Lord though once, and I didn't like it at all. I couldn't believe the trouble people go through to get it when there are plenty of RIS's at my local store that are way better, and you don't have to spend lots of money and wait hours in line to get.
DL is definitely overhyped BUT DL day (and the night before if you find a good bottleshare) is totally worth it. The bottle sharing I experienced there was absolutely out of this world.... I had more fun there then I did @ GABF... then again I enjoyed the other events/ stuff around Denver during GABF week then I did the actual GABF event as well.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:06 PM   #14
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DL is definitely overhyped BUT DL day (and the night before if you find a good bottleshare) is totally worth it. The bottle sharing I experienced there was absolutely out of this world.... I had more fun there then I did @ GABF... then again I enjoyed the other events/ stuff around Denver during GABF week then I did the actual GABF event as well.
I know, I'm talking about the beer specifically. That's it.
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Old 08-03-2014, 04:19 PM   #15
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That list is laughable at best.... A lot of those beers do belong on another list as being overhyped.... westy 12 and DL especially. Not saying they are bad beers but they for sure do not deserve that number 1 and 2 spot. A LOT of those beers are rated highly on ratebeer/beer advocate not because of how good they really are but instead on how rare and hard to acquire they are.

Also lists such as those are never gonna match up to one's own personal list since taste is subjective...

I've had most of those beers and out of all of the ones on that list I'd say try and get numbers 7,9, and 11. Those are the ones I liked but once again everyone has different taste preferences.

None of those beers are all that rare, a lot can be purchased on the net and the rest are relatively easily traded for if you don't live in distribution.

These lists are always nonsense. Agreed on them being rooted in personal taste.

With all that being said there are some very good beers on that list. Supplication, Pliny, speedway, and dreadnaught are all extremely good beers.
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One of my favorite episodes. You're also the first person to make a comment on my username, so props to you!
Wow...because your username has had me singing the song for weeks now. LMAO...I never said anything because I figured you'd already been inundated by now...
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Another list with ipas being favored instead of RIS like OP's list was. Whoever did that article did a horrible job of picking out the pictures to go with each beer, DFH Positive Contact (which is horrible imo and I like dfh) shows a bottle of 90 minute and Rochefort 10 shows a picture of Rochefort 6 lol.
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As has been mentioned previously, even if you narrow the sample to the so-called "experts" they selected, the source information is inherently biased. Look at the top rated beers on BA and Ratebeer and the vast majority are extremely limited release. Whether consciously or not, most of the reviewers on there apply a "rarity factor" when they rate beers. The more rare a beer, the more exclusive the rater for having tried it, and therefore, the higher the rating. Again, consciously or not, there's a bit of a, "it's really too bad you'll never have any chance of trying this beer, because it's the best thing I've ever had."

I've had 7 of the beers on that list and of those I would say Supplication and Temptation are absolutely world class beers. Abyss and Stone RIS are excellent imperial stouts, but I've had others just as good or better, some of which are more widely available. Hopslam and Pliny are good DIPAs, but I've had others that are better and more available. I find Speedway Stout to be way too boozy. Can't speak to the rest of the list.

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I find it humorous that most of these "top beers of the world" lists that keep cropping up consist largely of popular US beers with a few well-known international beers sprinkled on top, usually from Belgium. It's sad to see places like England, who have a wealth of good beers that sit in the mid-range ABV and IBU-wise, fall by the wayside. I really like watching European beer reviewers because there are a LOT of beers over there that I've never even heard of that sound fantastic. If these writers really wanted to capture my eye, they'd make an article like "Brewing Regions of England" or "Best Beer in Wales." I don't need another article to tell me that Pliny is a good beer. Write something new.

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The real story (narrowly mentioned) is in their research here. It explains the results of this list as well, where the researchers stratify experts and novices based on the types of beer that they drink and how highly they rate them. In a nutshell, if you rate Bud Light highly you are considered a novice. Here's a little nugget that I thought was humorous:


If there ever was a better definition of fallacy...
No, some of the overly hoppy beers are unpalatable even to those who are not beginners.
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