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Old 04-12-2008, 12:10 PM   #1
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How do you guys do it (time frame and amount)?


What I have been doing that works pretty well for me (10g Batch).

I will start with a Wyeast propagator pack and let it swell up appropriately.

Pitch it into 500mL of (roughly) 1.040 cooled wort and let it run 24-36 hours on the stir plate.

Add another 500mL wort and let it go for another 24-36 hours.

Finally I fill up my flask to 1800-1900mL and let it go another 24-36 hours. (In my experience if you fill a 2000mL flask more that that it will foam out).

Then pitch!

I would probably make a 3000mL starter if I had a flask big enough.

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Starters on a stir plate reach their maximum cell density within 12-18 hours, I normally shoot for somewhere in the middle and then either step it up again or pitch depending on how many cells I need.
Last night I put a pack of Activator pack of Pilsen Lager #2007 that was packaged on 10/15/07 for a 10G batch of lager on the stir plate. With the date that old I didn't want to put the whole 5L of wort in there in case it didn't take off. I looked when I got up this morning and its not looking good.
I usually let the pack warm to room temp and then smack it and if I planned far enough ahead I will let it swell if not it goes right into the starter.
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Old 04-12-2008, 05:07 PM   #3
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OK thank you, so is the stepping technique sound?

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It looks good to me but I am way too lazy to ust the propagator pack, I just use an activator and 1750-1800ml of wort plus a drop of Fermcap-S and be pitching it 24 hours later.

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What size batch are you pitching into? also how long is the lag?

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I do 10G batches and normally use MrMalty to calculate how much I need.
I can sometimes get by with a 2L in a lower gravity brew if my yeast is real fresh. But many times I have needed 4 or 5L.
My normal lag times are usually in the 3-5 hour range.

I found a 5L Pyrex jug on eBay for about $35 with shipping. I have been doing everything larger than 2L in there. (I call 1800ml close enough to 2L)
This is a 5L for a lager

How did the Red Headed Step Child turn out for you?

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How did the Red Headed Step Child turn out for you?
It is awesome, I am having one right now! Like you said it is not quite as red as say Killian's but IMHO plenty red for the style. I have been brewing really hoppy beers lately and it is nice to step away from that for a keg or two.

A friend of mine is brewing it this weekend also.
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