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Old 07-07-2013, 12:03 AM   #381
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Roughly! (For the 60L Speidel)

The first molded in line at bottom is 5.5 gallons-ish, the second molded in line would 12 gallons-ish, just below the Speidel name 15 gallons. Above the 60L molded in 14.5 gallons.
These are all -ish measurements :-)

All measurements would still produce BEER :-) whether they are off by 1-2 quarts-ish

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Old 07-07-2013, 12:17 AM   #382
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That 60 looks nice

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Old 07-09-2013, 06:28 AM   #383
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I get a slight beer'y.....yeast'y smell in my speidel tanks. About the same as what I smell after draining the beer off and only trub/yeast remaining in the bottom. It is not overpowering and not objectionable. It is slightly less so after rinsing and washing. I don't notice any of it changing the smell/taste of the next batch of new beer though. Thorough cleaning/rinsing removes most of it and then I sanitize with 1 step just before reloading with the next batch.

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I get that smell but it isn't just with the Speidel. I read earlier that someone noticed a smell when they used hot water but not when they used warm water. Give that a shot.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:32 AM   #384
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I have placed 1 gallon marks from 1-5 gallons on the outside of my 30L's using a black magic marker. It is fairly easy to see the water/wort line through the opaque plastic and see where it levels off vs the graduations.

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Has anyone put gallon marks on the 60L fermenter yet?
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:41 AM   #385
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I am wondering if the airlock that comes with the speidels might not release more than what 1 bubble on a 1 piece type airlock might indicate with each rise and drop. In other words 1 rise to the top and release of the large airlock might actually be releasing more volume of co2 than 1 bubble rise out of the 1 piece units. The rate of release could be the same but the indication less with the large airlock on the speidels. I have seen mine go to the top and release approximately once every 2-3 sec. on the speidel with the most vigorous of fermentation's that I have experienced.


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I've found the airlock activity to be muted-the bubbles that come out of the bubbler are huge. During my last fermentation, that finished in 3 days, I had a max bubble rate of maybe 30/minute. With a carboy and 3-piece airlock, I would probably have seen something crazy like 5 bubbles/second (too fast to count).

But, make sure it's sealed properly. The first time I used it, I had the cap in upside down for some stupid reason, and saw no bubbling until I put it in right.
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:48 AM   #386
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I use 1L Pet bottles rather than glass and it is quite easy to bottle the beer without tubing. I use the spigot directly with no tubing attached. Before filling my first bottle I run off several ounces first which contain xtra sediment which sometimes collects in the spigot into a clear glass and when it starts running mostly clear then I go ahead with the bottling. I usually set the glass aside and taste or drink a bit of the beer that is on top of the gunk which settles to the bottom.

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Got my first batch in my 30L and it's fermenting away. Not much airlock activity - I assume from the amount of head space still filling up with co2. Do you guys see that it takes a day or so to fill up the head space before the airlock lifts up? My orange part is all the way down in the connecting portion of the air lock.

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When you go to transfer from the Spiedel to bottling bucket or keg, do you just open your spigot and let it run through tubing into the bucket/keg or do you let a little run off first to reduce trub to the bucket/keg? Haven't had a spigot on any of the carboys I've used before and since I'm kegging I was just thinking of going straight to the keg no run off and just purging the first bit from the keg when it's tapped. Sound good?

Also what kind of tubing are you guys using to connect to the spigot? Standard racking tubing stretched over the nozzle? And do you spray the spigot with sanitizer prior to letting the beer flow out?

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Each batch of beer that I have done in my speidels has shown airlock activity at different times from the start. The fastest I saw was about 3 hours and I had one batch that took 36 hours. I have 30L units in which I do 5G batches so there is quite a bit of head space to fill with co2 before airlock activity will show itself. With the speidel its opaqueness is such that you cannot visualize the beginning of the bubbling on the beer surface until vigorous fermentation has taken place, after bubbler action has commenced and you can detect with careful eyeball inspection a collection of krausen on the sides of the tank above the wort line. I usually don't begin to worry about what is taking place unless I have seen no bubbler action usually by 24 hours after pitching the yeast at which point closer inspection is sometimes warranted to make sure everything is ok, lid/rubber stopper sealed properly.........yeast actually activating and doing its work. 99% of the time I have had no issues and all is well in a 12-24 hour timeframe.

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Got my first batch in my 30L and it's fermenting away. Not much airlock activity - I assume from the amount of head space still filling up with co2. Do you guys see that it takes a day or so to fill up the head space before the airlock lifts up? My orange part is all the way down in the connecting portion of the air lock.

Other questions:

When you go to transfer from the Spiedel to bottling bucket or keg, do you just open your spigot and let it run through tubing into the bucket/keg or do you let a little run off first to reduce trub to the bucket/keg? Haven't had a spigot on any of the carboys I've used before and since I'm kegging I was just thinking of going straight to the keg no run off and just purging the first bit from the keg when it's tapped. Sound good?

Also what kind of tubing are you guys using to connect to the spigot? Standard racking tubing stretched over the nozzle? And do you spray the spigot with sanitizer prior to letting the beer flow out?

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When I finish filling my fermenter I take a small piece of kitchen paper towling and soak it in sanitizer and push it up a bit into the spigot. I then tear off a small square of tin foil and drench it in sanitizer and wrap it around the spigot where they set until I am ready to bottle. When I get ready to bottle I remove the tin foil, pull out the small piece of paper toweling and then take a new piece of toweling and drench it and run it up into the spigot opening and around the outside to make sure everything is sanitized and ready for the bottling process. Actually it is quicker to do than it is to explain it. I have never had an issue with any infections and the such.......plus no little bugs (or large ones) have ever crawled up the spigot.........that I know of anyway. Maybe a bit too anal about it but it works for me.

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Got my first batch in my 30L and it's fermenting away. Not much airlock activity - I assume from the amount of head space still filling up with co2. Do you guys see that it takes a day or so to fill up the head space before the airlock lifts up? My orange part is all the way down in the connecting portion of the air lock.

Other questions:

When you go to transfer from the Spiedel to bottling bucket or keg, do you just open your spigot and let it run through tubing into the bucket/keg or do you let a little run off first to reduce trub to the bucket/keg? Haven't had a spigot on any of the carboys I've used before and since I'm kegging I was just thinking of going straight to the keg no run off and just purging the first bit from the keg when it's tapped. Sound good?

Also what kind of tubing are you guys using to connect to the spigot? Standard racking tubing stretched over the nozzle? And do you spray the spigot with sanitizer prior to letting the beer flow out?

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I love both of my 30L's. One thing you rarely see mentioned is how nice the large opening is on them. It makes cleaning the inside a breeze. On the 30L units you can easily reach down in all the way to the bottom to wash/wipe the inside of the unit. Also the wide opening is perfect for pouring the cooled wort into. I use a stainless steel large opening canning funnel to help avoid splashing. If I ever find a large plastic funnel with wide opening I will grab it and make it even more spill proof.

Another nice thing is when pitching the yeast. You hear a lot of talk about oxidizing at this stage. Grabbing a 5 gal carboy and shaking the begeebers out of it to accomplish it. With the wide opening on the speidel I just use a well sanitized mash paddle, or a large sanitized whisk and stir the heck out of the wort. Just pay attention to sanitizing whatever you mite use if you follow this routine. And if shaking is your preferred method, the side handles make this quite easy also.



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If they are in stock, they show up fairly quickly. I wanna say mine arrived in a few days. I live pretty much smack dab in the middle of the country. You will be really pleased with them. They are my go to fermenters now. The 30L is a great size. The 60L is a little more difficult to move around when it is full and you will need some help getting it out of a freezer fermentation chamber when it is full.
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I think the smell is typical with using plastic. It's the same smells u get after using the typical white bucket. Smells won't harm your beer, uncleansingness will:-)

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