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Old 04-05-2008, 07:19 PM   #1
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Default So hops are fatal for dogs, what about other household pets?

This is good information to know as i had no idea until browsing this forum the other day. I have been doing some searches but apparently dogs are the main concern as far as i can tell.

What about cats or other family pets? Any other brewing ingredients that need to be kept away from animals?



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Old 04-06-2008, 02:18 AM   #2
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wow is this really true? where did you find this information? so if hops are bad for dogs why do some dogs drink beer? wouldnt the hops still sort of be in there? or is it just raw hops and a larger amount of it? whatever the case its good to know. i have to dogs that will try and eat anything.



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Actually, other household pets are not fatal for dogs. Dogs can eat cats, hamsters, etc with no problems...

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This is news to me.. I just planted some in my backyard where my dogs could get access to them. I guess I have to come up with some kind of barrier now?

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so if hops are bad for dogs why do some dogs drink beer?
I wasn't aware that some dogs drink beer! How do they open the bottles?
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wow is this really true? where did you find this information? so if hops are bad for dogs why do some dogs drink beer? wouldnt the hops still sort of be in there? or is it just raw hops and a larger amount of it? whatever the case its good to know. i have to dogs that will try and eat anything.
Yes, it's true. In some dogs (greyhounds appear to be particularly susceptible, but I beleive all dogs are at risk), ingestion of hops can cause malignant hyperthermia -- the metabolism skyrockets, and the dog can't control it's body temp. No one knows what substance in hops triggers the reaction, or why some dogs are more susceptible than others. Google 'hops poison dogs' or something similar, and you'll get a bunch of info.

As far as dogs drinking beer, I'd guess (and it's just a guess) that the toxin is too dilute or maybe nonexistent in the finished beer to have an effect. Also guessing that most people who give their dogs beer are BMC drinkers, where concentration of anything hop-related probably isn't a danger

I wouldn't let Fido at the IIPA, just to be safe...
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A recent member of either this forum or one of the multitude of other forums I visit recently lost his dog because he ingested an ounce of hops.

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Actually, other household pets are not fatal for dogs. Dogs can eat cats, hamsters, etc with no problems...
LMAO.
Mine once ate a 1/2lb of chocolate malt. She was fine once it went though her system.
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Let's put it this way, there is exactly ONE report out there about hops & dogs, from 1997. If this really was a problem, you'd think there would be more cases as homebrewing AND greyhound retirement programs have become more common.

As a homebrewer and a greyhound owner, I've investigated this and communicated with some of the top greyhound vet programs in the country.

Go to http://www.vet.ohio-state.edu/1872.htm, search for hops. Nada. Even the national poison control center has zero documented cases.

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i realize it may not be an everyday occurrence, but information such as this is good to know in order to show some caution against loosing a "family member."

i believe the correct expression is something like, better safe than sorry.



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