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Old 12-10-2010, 03:57 PM   #1
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Default Single kettle brewing??? Is there such a thing?

Hi guys, as you know i work for March pumps.....I'm not into beer brewing but with my engineering and mechanical background i'm always thinking on how to improove things. And it got me to thinking.... So my question to all you pro's is this:
Is it possible to brew your beer in one kettle? I know i see you guys have two or three kettles. The way i see a single kettle brew happening is with something that can take your mash or hops out....and i envision a press type filter like a "french press" coffee type thing. You would have a fine mesh screen both top and bottom and press down to filter out the liquid while keeping the solids inbetween the screens...then just pull it all out. Then you can just insert a copper coil chiller loop into the kettle and use the pumps to circulate cold ice water out of an ingloo cooler or something.

Am i onto something? Or thinking of something thats been done before or is it just stupid because I'm not familiar with the whole brewing process?

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Old 12-10-2010, 03:59 PM   #2
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Stove Top Brew In a Bag could be done with the full boil volume in a large enough pot. You'd have low efficiency, but it'd be a single pot AG system.
But where is the fun in less equipment?

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Old 12-10-2010, 04:13 PM   #3
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Yeah, people do this in a "brew in a bag". Essentially they put all the grain in a bag and then drag it out of the pot. They also do something similar with a small bag for hops additions.

I would be interested in seeing a drawing of what you are envisioning, but I think you will find cost and complexity of what you are describing might outweigh the previously described simple methods?

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Old 12-10-2010, 04:16 PM   #4
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There has been a lot of discussion about this topic. You can either search "brew in a bag" or check out this thread:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/sing...rewery-158608/

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There has been a lot of discussion about this topic. You can either search "brew in a bag" or check out this thread:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/sing...rewery-158608/
Think i'll have to look farther into the whole process of brewing before i can think of "other" things to change! I am completely green when it comes to what you guys do to brew beer...

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If something like this did catch on, wouldn't it hurt the hell out of your employer?

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If something like this did catch on, wouldn't it hurt the hell out of your employer?
Nope...these pumps are not designed for any one application. The 809's are used in everything from transfering used veggy oils to radiant heat for homes...to hot water recirculation so you have hot water at the faucet farthest from the water heater....The beer guys like them cause of the high temps they can take And we also make these in 12 and 24v DC version for solar applications that are very popular as well. You should see how many we sell yearly to southern states like FL, TX, AZ, CA etc

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If something like this did catch on, wouldn't it hurt the hell out of your employer?
I would think that most single-vessel type setups would have a pump to recirc the wort during the mash period in some type of RIMS setup. Unless the vessel is heavily insulated (in which case you may run into issues with flammability if you are using flame instead of electric heat), you'd need the recirc to ensure a constant temperature or that you don't scorch the wort.
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Nope...these pumps are not designed for any one application. The 809's are used in everything from transfering used veggy oils to radiant heat for homes...to hot water recirculation so you have hot water at the faucet farthest from the water heater....The beer guys like them cause of the high temps they can take And we also make these in 12 and 24v DC version for solar applications that are very popular as well. You should see how many we sell yearly to southern states like FL, TX, AZ, CA etc

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The DC aspect is interesting because of the possibility of speed control....
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