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Old 09-24-2012, 07:55 PM   #21
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What abour Citra as opposed to Cascade? Maybe a little of each?
I was actually thinking the same thing. I think you used Citra you would have to be careful not to use too much or it would dominate the aroma and flavor.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:15 PM   #22
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Do you have a source for that? I know they grow some of their hops and barley but all of them? Pardon me for being incredulous but Sierra Nevada is a pretty prolific brewery so the thought of them producing all of their own barley and hops is pretty incredible.
I correct myself, your right they don't grow all of their hops and barley. I went to a Sierra Nevada sponsored beer dinner and the SN reps gave us some pamphlets with some cool info on the brewery. They have a hop yard that's over 9 acres(biggest in the Cali) and a 26 acre 2 Row barley field they have custom malted to their requirement. They also have a solar energy farm of over 10,500 panels and four 300-kilowatt co-generation fuel cell units. If that wasn't green enough they also installed a system to recover all the CO2 produced during fermentation that's then used for bottling and kegs. As well as a hybrid diesel electric vehicle used to distribute products locally. Sorry, I got a little carried away, just thought I'd share the info as it makes me respect their operation that much more.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:47 PM   #23
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The experimental hop could be the HBC 342 that More Beer has for sale. Check it out, uses some of the same words in the description as on the SN website, notably "melon notes". I'dlink to it but I'm on my ipad and copying & pasting is a pita. Sorry.
I'll check that out.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:53 AM   #24
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Here is my first pass at a recipe. I went with the HBC 342 experimental hops. The hop aroma profile seems to match pretty closely to what was described by SN. I got the IBUs and ABV as close as I could based on BeerSmith. Took a shot at the hop profile based on some other recipes I found for IPAs and Imperial Reds.

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Imperial Red - Version 1
American IPA
Type: All Grain Date: 9/24/2012
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.98 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
Equipment: My Setup (10 Gal Cooler/15 Gal Pot) - All Grain
End of Boil Volume 5.98 gal
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 4.60 gal
Est Mash Efficiency 82.8 %
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage

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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
13 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 86.3 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2 6.6 %
1 lbs Patagonia Medium Crystal Malt (60.0 SRM) Grain 3 6.6 %
1.1 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 4 0.5 %
1.00 oz Magnum [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 40.5 IBUs
0.50 oz Magnum [14.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 15.6 IBUs
0.50 oz HBC 342 [12.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 8.6 IBUs
0.25 oz HBC 342 [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 8 1.7 IBUs
1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 ml] Yeast 9 -
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz HBC 342 [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Magnum [14.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs


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Est Original Gravity: 1.078 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.017 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 8.1 %
Bitterness: 66.4 IBUs Calories: 151.6 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 14.0 SRM

Edit: Adjusted the chocolate malt and Patagonia to lighten up the color. Also, lowered IBUs on HBC 342 to 12 from 15. Decided to go with Wyeast 1056 over PacMan.

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Old 09-25-2012, 06:41 AM   #25
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Do you have a source for that? I know they grow some of their hops and barley but all of them? Pardon me for being incredulous but Sierra Nevada is a pretty prolific brewery so the thought of them producing all of their own barley and hops is pretty incredible.
Their Hops and barley are mainly for their Estate Ale. They import from Wash Oregon just like everyone else.
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Great Lakes Brewing,Nosferatau I think it is. I thought it was very good. Sorry I think they may have limited distribution,I know I cant get it without driving a few hours into Illinois,near Chicago. Probabably same situation for you since its in Ohio.
I think you should try a founders red rye ale also.One of my favorates.
Got a 4-pack of this. Really, really good. It is just what I was looking for. The beer is nice and bitter, but not overly hoppy. Really well balanced.

Only problem it's only available for another month so I'm back to the drawing board.
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Got a 4-pack of this. Really, really good. It is just what I was looking for. The beer is nice and bitter, but not overly hoppy. Really well balanced.

Only problem it's only available for another month so I'm back to the drawing board.
Glad you liked it. Now get some Ithaca Cascazilla
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Glad you liked it. Now get some Ithaca Cascazilla
I couldn't find it. They had all the other Ithaca beers, but not that one. Is it seasonal?
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No, it's year round.

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This thread influenced me to get another 4 pack of GreenFlash Hop Head Red,as I havent had it for some time,yep its still great. Now I have a hankering for some Founders RedsRye again also for some reason. Oh wait,I forgot,its pretty much my favorate style ever. I also recently picked up a 4 pack of Hoprod rye. Its what makes the good life-great.

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