shuggy

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I have yet to find a beer that is too hoppy. The thing that turns me off are beers that are supposed to be hoppy that turn out to be a sweet malty mess.

Beer Advocate is not a good barometer on whether a beer is good or not. The rating system is very flawed and most reviewers seem to think that B is average. I just love the reviews that trash a beer and then rate it a B-. WTF?

bierhaus15

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The first bottle of Pliny the Elder I ever had was to much for me. I dumped it. Same with Stone Ruination.

Still am not crazy about IIPA's, though I no longer think they are undrinkable.

40watt

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This needs to be addressed. Normally I would agree.

In rural Oklahoma it has taken years for liquor stores to start stocking ANY craft beer or out of the ordinary imports. When the entire industry goes hop crazy, a small store that orders only a distributors best sellers, will offer no alternative.

After striking out at a couple local stores, I think I finally found someone willing and able to special order for me.

Airborneguy

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Double Bastard actually made me physically sick.

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I enjoy hops, but I agree with the original poster that it is getting harder to find a fun new beer that isn't buried in hops.

I don't like it when they say "we took the class style of (what-have-you) and dumped a bunch of hops in it for a new twist.

In revolt, I held a Bock tasting a couple of weeks ago. Fun times.

Teromous

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The rating is broken down into sections, so instead of giving a score you think a beer deserves, you score individual parts of it. I like this method because it causes people to think more about the beer in every respect. I'm sure many of us have had a beer that looked great but didn't taste as good, or one that tastes great but is uncharacteristically murky. This way you can see a beer that would normally be rated as a C for cloudiness and read that people give it an A for flavor.

bratrules

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I agree over hopped beers aren't my thing. don't get me wrong i enjoy a good IPA but i like a good balance of malt and hops. i tried the stones double bastard i didnt like it what so ever but i do enjoy there IPA.

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nicegut

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Never had the real thing but...I'm on my 3rd round of a Pliney clone. 19 oz of tear your face off hops in mine! I prefer mine mashed low for dry finish. This time I have a little more malt backbone to smooth it out. I love hops! Just unloaded 4 lbs. into the freezer!

MBasile

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I only use BA for descriptions, not judgement of beer. It seems if it isn't a hopbomb they don't like it. For suggestions I turn to Pintly.com (like Pandoa for beer).

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shuggy

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I'm fully aware of how the ratings are compiled. Generally you do not see a whole lot of score variation across the five categories for any given beer review. The recent changes in weighting for each category along with changing drinkability to overall has helped slightly bring scores closer to where they should be but they are still out of whack. The best way I've found to use their rating system is to take the rAvg score and multiply it by 2 and use that against the typical school grading system. For example: rAvg 3.85 B+ is translated into a 7.7 which would drop it to be in line with a C+ or C.