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Old 11-03-2008, 04:59 PM   #1
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I have been making beer for a little now and my friends own a local bar. I always wanted to try and get my beer out to the public and this woudl be a good avenue to do so. I was just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction to find out the legalities behind selling my beer through a bar. Even if I bottle up two cases and give it to the bar for free, how should I go about doing so.

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Old 11-03-2008, 05:01 PM   #2
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it's probably not gonna work out for ya, I'll just say that up front. To sell your beer, or even give to a bar for them to sell, you have to spend thousands of dollars in permits, and you have to make a minimum amount each year for this permit (we're talking in the thousands of gallons range, typically). I'm not sure where "York" is, but that's how it is in Virginia. You probably need to look up the local/state laws that have jurisdiction.

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Old 11-03-2008, 05:06 PM   #3
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York, PA. Pennsylvania's distributor network isn't the most "modern"...

Your friends that own the bar should have some idea, since they've dealt with the licensing, etc.

I'd start with the ATF, Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board, York City, etc.

Good luck, you're going to need it.

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Old 11-03-2008, 05:06 PM   #4
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Are you in the UK? It is very difficult in the US, if you run a search this has been discussed several times... each time ending in a general consensus that it most implausible for anything remotely close to a home scale. If you are interested in going larger, to a small micro size or starting a brewpub it is possible. However, there are a lot of fees and paperwork that must be done.

I think the general conclusion has been, if you can find a restaurant that is willing to foot the cost and get a brewpub license that would work. This may be difficult to find.

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Old 11-03-2008, 05:32 PM   #5
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I'll just pile on with more negativity.

At some point I think that most homebrewers at least think about the possibility of doing this but the reality of it is that it's just not feasible. You have to obtain a license from your state to produce, distribute and/or sell beer. In most states you will be required to have a place of business that is not your home and since you are making product for human consumption you will be subject to multiple heath codes and inspections.

You'd spend hundreds, even thousands, of dollars up front to make all of that happen. Then you would have to brew almost constantly (even if you're doing 10 gallon batches) to keep up with even moderate demand.

I admire your aspirations, but in most cases it's just not realistic.

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Old 11-03-2008, 05:35 PM   #6
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I'd imagine you could just search the forum on "selling" and you'd find plenty of replies...

edit: like these

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/mico...ing-beer-8229/
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f19/sell...79/index2.html
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/sell...brewery-53383/
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f5/wanti...68/index6.html
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/selling-homebrew-1205/
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f19/selling-homebrew-11640/
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/manu...it-cost-55841/
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/anyo...ir-beer-11754/
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/home...72/index2.html

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Old 11-03-2008, 05:37 PM   #7
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The answer to most of these threads has been "look for a contract brewer". If somebody else is doing the brew, such as a licensed brew pub, you can produce the beer with them on their equipment, and the brew pub or whomever is buying it can contract directly with them, legally keeping you out of the loop. You can then just work as a contractor for your time.

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Old 11-03-2008, 05:47 PM   #8
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thanks guys.....this is good info. I work during the week as an Engineer and I slowly just want to gather as much info as possible. This isnt something that I need or want to rush into.
The only reason I ask is that alot of people come over and try my stuff and really like it....Then I get the usual..."You should sell this" response. And coming from the typical Bud Light Miller Lite drinkers I say that is a success in my books.




thanks again.

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This is all great news for me not being able to sell beer easily. One of the last hobbies I really loved I turned it into a business. Actually an LLC and worked it for awhile...

I don't do that hobby anymore.

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