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Old 03-18-2010, 01:49 AM   #11
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That is some good points as well.
Wow do I learn a lot.
I love the fact that so often there is no one answer... At first it troubled me... but now I am loving it!
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Old 03-18-2010, 01:51 AM   #12
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That's the thing about home brewing... there are often 16 different ways people do something and most of them are right.
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:12 AM   #13
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That's the thing about home brewing... there are often 16 different ways people do something and most of them are right.
+1 on that

Thanks, Cheshire. It's good to hear some one relay actual experience as opposed to conjecture/theory. Thanks, cimirie. Consistency is a good point that I hadn't seen mentioned before. And thanks jalgayer for the OP! This is a good thread.
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In my (albeit somewhat limited) experience, I've found that bulk aging (either primary only or primary/secondary) conditions the beer faster than bottle conditioning. Meaning a beer that I have 2 weeks in the fermenter and 5 weeks in the bottle tastes greener than a beer that I had 4 weeks in the fermenter and 3 weeks in the bottle, even though both beers are 6 weeks old at the time of tasting.
You been drinking for St Patty's Day Cat? 2+5 = 7 & 3+4 = 7 so what's up with the 6.....

I just having fun...You have helped me so thanks and I say pretty sound advice here more time on yeast seems to make beer more mature...
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My math is more advanced than yours is all. On the ChshreCat homeworld, 2+5=6.
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I think the only difference would be option C would not be as clear as the rest. Thats it! But, I have been, and will be again, wrong about many things. I would be interested to hear the results of your experiment, if you care to try it.
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Potter1, did you try bottle conditioning and it didn't turn out good?
No, Bottle conditioned beer is fine, for really long aging beers (6 months to a year or more) it's the way to go. I've just found that leaving the beer either a) on the yeast cake in primary for a month, or b) racking into the secondary for an extended time have given me very good results. Little off flavors and VERY consistent bottle to bottle. But whatever you do, it's going to make some damn fine beer.
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I didn't see anyone address the temperature issue. I typically store my ales between 60 and 68 until I am ready to bottle and then I cold crash for 3 days at 35. This gives me a clearer beer. I also use a secondary after 4-6 weeks in the primary. I do so mainly because I only have one primary and don't want to tie it up for 3 or 4 months.
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In Stan Hieronymus' book, he says that the trappists and abbey brewers claim that bottle conditioning is better.

I don't recall him going into why. Why is always a good question to be able to answer when making such assertions.
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In Stan Hieronymus' book, he says that the trappists and abbey brewers claim that bottle conditioning is better.

I don't recall him going into why. Why is always a good question to be able to answer when making such assertions.
Probably to free up tank space for the next batch. They may not admit it is the reason, but it's probably economics.
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