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Old 03-13-2007, 03:08 PM   #1
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I have made 2 bad batches in a row now and I am at a loss for words??? I am doing nothing different than before when I made OK beer. I am going to get a new primary bucket and see if that helps.

It is a real kick in the balls when you spend $50, wait 6 weeks and then find out you failed (again). Any suggestions would be appreciated. I think I am diligent on my sanitation and use iodophor in my bottles (no rinse).

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Old 03-13-2007, 03:12 PM   #3
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Did you taste the batches at different stages of the process? When did the fermentation stop looking normal?

I would suspect the primary bucket and/or any hoses. Small defects in plastic can harbor bacteria that sanitizer has a hard time reaching.

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Old 03-13-2007, 03:16 PM   #4
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If you post a recipe and specifics, we could help you narrow down your problem. Describe the infection- bad smell/taste (band-aid, cider-y, mediciny, etc), things growing, etc. That will give us enough detail to help.

It is expensive and time consuming to have to pitch the batches!

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Old 03-13-2007, 03:18 PM   #5
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I had both tasted by my local brewpub brewer and he commented they both were infected. They have definite off-flavors. The fermentation temps have been right on, everything has gone extremely well until the end?? I will try the new primary, if that doesn't work, I may have to give up the hobby....getting hard to justify to wife spending $50 and making bad beer.

Both were kits, ESB from morebeer.com and the other was a SNPA from LHBS. SNPA had a metallic off-flavor (infected), ESB has a husky flavor and feels slimy. Nothing was growing in either primary or secondary. Like I said everything appeared normal.

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What kind of off flavors?

If the beer tastes decent coming out of primary, it is unlikely that the problem is there. I would not suspect the bottles.

Are there rings around your carboy or bottles?

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maybe some piece of your epuipment is tainted

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I have made 2 bad batches in a row now and I am at a loss for words??? I am doing nothing different than before when I made OK beer.
Help.
You may not have changed anything, but water company may have... like chloramine instead of chlorine, so boiling doesn't get rid of it, or some other change? Also, is your strength of iodophor good - if you go strong are you using boiled water to rinse?
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You may not have changed anything, but water company may have... like chloramine instead of chlorine, so boiling doesn't get rid of it, or some other change? Also, is your strength of iodophor good - if you go strong are you using boiled water to rinse?
I use RO water from the store (5 gallons). The iodophor is 2 capfuls in 5 gals (recommended). I was checking my primary and the inside feels pretty rough. The next batch I will use a newly purchased primary and hope for the best.
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SNPA had a metallic off-flavor (infected), ESB has a husky flavor and feels slimy.
What do you use for a brewpot? How much (if any) grains were involved and how did you crack them?
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