Does anyone have a link or comments on style guidelines for this. Traditional Ingredients and what not?
There is a Jamil show episode on Schwarzbier:
I brewed his recipe and just made substitutions on the hops and yeast. It's in primary right now and I think it will turn out great from the one sample I've had.
I did a schwarzbier a couple of months ago. I did an extract with grains recipe based on Jamil's book. You can substitute base grain for the extract of course. I've been pretty good about letting it lager for 3 months. From specific gravity samples, I've noticed that the chocolate malt goes a long way, but otherwise it is a fairly clean finishing beer. I'm really looking forward to drinking this one in May.
6oz. chocolate malt
6oz. crystal 40 L
3.5oz. carafa II
3.5oz. black roasted barley
5# munich LME
3.6# pilsner LME
1.75oz. 3.6%AA Hallertau @60min
.5oz 3.1%AA Hallertau @20min
.5oz 3.1%AA Hallertau @0min
2 liter starter (3 days early) of WLP830 "German Lager Yeast"
I think Im going to go this route. Now I just have to find some Hallertaur.
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 4/14/2008
Style: Schwarzbier (Black Beer) Brewer: Richard Clark
Batch Size: 5.00 gal Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 7.00 gal Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 63.00 % Equipment: Brew Pot (7.5 gal) and Igloo Cooler (10 Gal)
Actual Efficiency: 62.88 %
Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0
Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.00 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 51.61 %
4.00 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 25.81 %
2.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 12.90 %
1.00 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 6.45 %
0.50 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 3.23 %
1.50 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] (60 min) Hops 21.6 IBU
1.00 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] (15 min) Hops 7.1 IBU
1.50 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] (5 min) Hops 4.8 IBU
1 Pkgs Southern German Lager (White Labs #WLP838) [Starter 35 ml] Yeast-Lager
Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.068 SG (1.044-1.054 SG) Measured Original Gravity: 1.068 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.018 SG (1.010-1.016 SG) Measured Final Gravity: 1.018 SG
Estimated Color: 42.8 SRM (20.0-45.0 SRM) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 33.5 IBU (25.0-35.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 12.0 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 6.53 % (4.20-5.40 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 6.53 %
Actual Calories: 309 cal/pint
Mash Profile Name: Double Infusion, Light Body Mash Tun Weight: 9.00 lb
Mash Grain Weight: 15.50 lb Mash PH: 5.4 PH
Grain Temperature: 72.0 F Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F
Sparge Water: 0.00 gal Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE
Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Protein Rest Add 3.49 gal of water at 132.1 F 122.0 F 30 min
Saccrification Add 3.10 gal of water at 187.9 F 150.0 F 30 min
Mash Out Add 3.10 gal of water at 210.3 F 168.0 F 10 min
I love Shiner's Black Lager and have wanted to try to copy it for a while. I am splitting the difference between uwjester and riclark and working up a mini-mash. I am still figuring out beersmith, and trying to find styrian hops. Shiner uses Styrian and Saaz.
Good idea. I think the styrians would go good with this beer, but yeah, they are hard to come by these days. I've been wanting to do a pilsner with styraian goldings, but I just haven't come across the hops for it.
Here is what I have worked up so far. I might not use so much chocolate, and I need another bittering hop. Any suggestions? Maybe perle for bittering and saaz just for aroma? I have yet to figure out how to set up my mash on beersmith.
Type: Partial Mash
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Brewer: Neal Wendele
Boil Size: 4.36 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Brew Pot (5 Gallon)
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00
Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 lb Munich Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 58.82 %
2.00 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 23.53 %
0.50 lb Black Barley (Stout) (500.0 SRM) Grain 5.88 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 5.88 %
0.50 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 5.88 %
1.00 oz Saaz [4.00 %] (60 min) Hops 12.2 IBU
0.50 oz Saaz [4.00 %] (30 min) Hops 4.7 IBU
0.50 oz Saaz [4.00 %] (5 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
1 Pkgs German Bock Lager (White Labs #WLP833) [Starter 35 ml] Yeast-Lager
Est Original Gravity: 1.052 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.06 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.65 %
Bitterness: 16.9 IBU Calories: 43 cal/pint
Est Color: 34.1 SRM Color: Color
Mash Name: My Mash Total Grain Weight: 3.50 lb
Sparge Water: 4.88 gal Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F TunTemperature: 72.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.4 PH
I would think of cutting the black barley a bit, depending on what you are shooting for. My interperetation of the style is that you don't want to create a stout-like flavor. I think you are shooting for a fairly clean lager. Too much black barley could add a coffee-like acrid flavor. Of course, I've done this style all of once, so take any advice I give with a pile of salt.
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