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Old 12-31-2009, 05:38 PM   #21
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Can't wait for this thread to come to blows...
Seems like people have taken their happy pill today.


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Ok. I'll likely get my butt kick from family but here it goes. I grew up in the Portland area. Lived 6 years in Waldport, Or and cut my brew teeth on Rogue River Beer. But, after moving to Arizona, my tastes have shifted and I don't enjoy Rogue River Beer as much any more. I actually enjoy Four Peaks or Santan Brewery now although they're not from SD.


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Old 12-31-2009, 05:46 PM   #23
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how about we just compare southern pac beer to northern pac beer. The split with be Sierra Nevada. Ok discuss
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How about California vs the rest of the West?
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How about California vs the rest of the West?
well that would basically take away some nice breweries like Humboldt, lost coast, nectar ales and a few others.

I take that back, nectar ales are brewed by Firestone Walker now. More great beers in the same location
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HUB is great! And their Sampler is Fantastic!

Great bar food too!!!

Still haven't been to SD... Guess as I'd have to pass through PDX on the way... why bother traveling the additional distance when it's this good this close!
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Old 12-31-2009, 06:11 PM   #27
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It appears that SD has Portland beat for number of breweries (8 vs 6), but Portland has far more brewpubs, which I think is something I'd like to see more of in San Diego.
I think we need to define "brewpub" vs. "brewery". If you're brewing beer, what's the difference if you're serving it in your space with food or packaging for mass distribution?

To me there are far more than 6 breweries in Portland. Some have been listed, but I'll take a stab (and I know it will be far from a complete list):

Widmer
Bridgeport
McMenn's
HUB
Roots
Laurelwood
Lucky Labrador
Amnesia
Almeda
Upright
Hair of the Dog
Lompoc
Cascade Brewing
Tugboat Brewing


Brewery in PDX, though may not be their "main" brewery:
Deschutes
Full Sail


And there was a recent report that between summer of 2009 and summer 2010 15, yes 15 new breweries/brewpubs will be opening in Portland or the surrounding area. And if we extended it beyond Portland limits...The list just grows from there....

I don't know who brews the best beer (a very subjective thing), but for a city that makes beer a part of it's life and culture and the overall picture I think Portland has anyone beat...far and away.
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I think we need to define "brewpub" vs. "brewery". If you're brewing beer, what's the difference if you're serving it in your space with food or packaging for mass distribution?

To me there are far more than 6 breweries in Portland. Some have been listed, but I'll take a stab (and I know it will be far from a complete list):

Widmer
Bridgeport
McMenn's
HUB
Roots
Laurelwood
Lucky Labrador
Amnesia
Almeda
Upright
Hair of the Dog
Lompoc
Cascade Brewing
Tugboat Brewing


Brewery in PDX, though may not be their "main" brewery:
Deschutes
Full Sail


And there was a recent report that between summer of 2009 and summer 2010 15, yes 15 new breweries/brewpubs will be opening in Portland or the surrounding area. And if we extended it beyond Portland limits...The list just grows from there....

I don't know who brews the best beer (a very subjective thing), but for a city that makes beer a part of it's life and culture and the overall picture I think Portland has anyone beat...far and away.
(in a nice monotone voice, like a kid asking really nice because you live in a beer nirvana land) Can I be your friend?

Anyways, I am jealous of anyone that lives remotely near these places.

On another note mentioned earlier about the weather alone should have San Diego ahead. Some people don't like having to worry if their house is going to burn down and like things to be green. Those people might live in Portland.
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Some people like sunshine...
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Some people like sunshine...
believe me, I get plenty of sunshine here. There are many times when I wish a cloud would roll by.


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