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BrianTheBrewer 12-31-2009 12:57 PM

San Diego vs Portland
 
So I first want to apologize for starting this thread...dont get the wrong idea. This should not be a heated thread. It is not meant to start fights. It is meant to debate what city has better beer, breweries, pubs, events, ect...

Second, I started this thread because I wanted to see everyones opinion on what city out of the two are better beer cities.

Now we all know they both have great breweries and great people.
Give reasons why you think either one is better than the other.

Also...please be nice...this should be a fun thread.

San Diego CA .vs. Portland OR

svudah 12-31-2009 01:26 PM

Well I'm not going to pick between the two. I lived in Eugene, OR for two years and was often up in Portland. Now, I live in LA and our only beer culture is runoff from San Diego.

What I will say about Portland and people in the Pacific Northwest in general--which may also might be true of San Diego, I don't know-- is that those people are zen masters of integrating good beer into every part of life. Case in point: the cine-pub of which there are I believe at least a dozen in Portland. Nothing like paying less than 5 bucks to see a movie, then kicking back and drinking a 24oz glass of Ninkasi.

Here in LA, we have hundreds of movie houses of every shape and size, but nothing like that.

Gremlyn 12-31-2009 03:29 PM

While we may not have the awesome cine-pub's of the PNW, all I have to say is:
  • Stone
  • Lost Abbey
  • Port Brewing
  • Green Flash
Carry on...

humann_brewing 12-31-2009 03:39 PM

First of all, San Diego is going to win based on vote count because they have more representatives to vote by sheer population and all the people that think Escondido = San Diego.

Would someone from San Diego please come forward and vote for Portland..... silence, I didn't think so.


It just comes down to taste, as much as people say the west coast has it's style of beer like the east coast does, I have news that there are different style tastes between the southern and northern pacific coast.


Brian: to make this interesting, you should change this into a Poll.

FxdGrMind 12-31-2009 03:51 PM

well PNW resident, I have to vote for Portland. But as I haven't been to SD... their wait staff may be better looking... so I may just change my mind if I ever visit that city.

I do love the Cina-bars here in the PNW... nothing better than kicking back and watching a movie and having dinner brought to you in your lazyboy! $11 Dinner and a movie is the same cost as seeing a movie in the big city!!!! I'm just amazed people in the big city and what they are willing to pay for....

Maybe I'm just frugal or cheap...

humann_brewing 12-31-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FxdGrMind (Post 1775685)
well PNW resident, I have to vote for Portland. But as I haven't been to SD... their wait staff may be better looking... so I may just change my mind if I ever visit that city.

I do love the Cina-bars here in the PNW... nothing better than kicking back and watching a movie and having dinner brought to you in your lazyboy! $11 Dinner and a movie is the same cost as seeing a movie in the big city!!!! I'm just amazed people in the big city and what they are willing to pay for....

Maybe I'm just frugal or cheap...

Where are you at? Have you ever heard of the central cinema?

arturo7 12-31-2009 04:10 PM

San Diego wins on weather alone.

remilard 12-31-2009 04:23 PM

If you loosely define what San Diego is, I think that they would win if the criteria is which place produces better beer. I mean, who who isn't from Portland can even name more than 1-2 of the Portland breweries?

I think Portland wins if you go with a "beer culture" type criteria defined as concentration of beer centric establishments, percentage of population that drinks craft beer etc.

However, if we are loosely defining geographic areas I think San Francisco beats them both on both criteria (including a significant area north of the bay).

Gremlyn 12-31-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arturo7 (Post 1775713)
San Diego wins on weather alone.

Haha +1,000,000!

Humann, as much as you say it comes down to taste... I'm not a HUGE fan of overly hoppy beers. Given the choice I'll take dark, malty goodness over hoppy any day, but I certainly enjoy and appreciate the 'west coast' style beers. I can't honestly say I KNOW SD is better than Portland; I haven't been to Portland and I bet they make some damn tasty brews up there that I will eventually get to try. I also don't know how many breweries Portland has, but I would wager that San Diego has more quality breweries per square mile than any other US city.

Note: I'm talking about San Diego COUNTY, not city - so Escondido is included. Maybe that's unfair to Portland as it's just a city, but we can take into account whatever county Portland resides in as well if it helps.

humann_brewing 12-31-2009 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gremlyn1 (Post 1775739)
Haha +1,000,000!

Humann, as much as you say it comes down to taste... I'm not a HUGE fan of overly hoppy beers. Given the choice I'll take dark, malty goodness over hoppy any day, but I certainly enjoy and appreciate the 'west coast' style beers. I can't honestly say I KNOW SD is better than Portland; I haven't been to Portland and I bet they make some damn tasty brews up there that I will eventually get to try. I also don't know how many breweries Portland has, but I would wager that San Diego has more quality breweries per square mile than any other US city.

Note: I'm talking about San Diego COUNTY, not city - so Escondido is included. Maybe that's unfair to Portland as it's just a city, but we can take into account whatever county Portland resides in as well if it helps.

I should walk away at this point but I can't help myself. You have made comments that are grossly misrepresented.

I am certainly not saying that the San Diego area does not have good beer because they do and a lot of it, but to just say that it is better because you live there and have never been to the other (Portland) does not speak to your impartial view.

I have never lived close to either location but have had many beers from both of them.

Here is another thread started by BrianTheBrewer on the same subject.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/1-be...merica-145085/

P.S. Next time your up this way, drop by and I'll buy you a beer.


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