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01-12-2012, 01:17 AM
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I've never had DFH, but people have a right to their opinion. You throw your product on the shelves, people pay for it; they just supposed to keep their mouth shut?
Obviously people have different taste, but I'll agree with a thread I saw running through that thread - some craft beers are overpriced, especially that sold by the single bottle, bomber or otherwise. Like Rogue - I got a six of they're Yellow Snow IPA for $10.99. At first I didn't like it, but by the last one I had a grudging respect. Not in the same class as Firestone-Walker, IMO, but okay.
Now skip to the bombers: Yellow Snow goes for $6.99. For another 50 cents I can get a bomber of Double Jack, which I like a lot better. Not worth it to me, and I'm not even remotely interested in betting 7 bucks on any of their other beers, which aren't available here by the six. But that's me - apparently enough people disagree to support the price. What's wrong with people trading opinions on this stuff? Should I worry that the CEO of Rogue is going to come on here and blast me? It's all just my opinion, and his.
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01-12-2012, 01:27 AM
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#112
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I do wonder if people are calling a brewery "over rated" because they did pay a premium for the brew and didn't like it. Willing to bet that if they were paying 4.00 a sixer, it wouldn't bother them as much.
Not saying that all beers cost too much - as a home brewer I know how expensive it is to create good beer with a small economy of scale. I agree with the brewer charging what they need to so they can make a buck - I just wonder if as craft brew grows and more people are trying it, they've got unreasonable expectations and a palate that isn't up to speed just yet.
LOTS of people have used Blue Moon or Shocktop as their gateway to craft beer and now that they're paying a premium for real craft - they feel slighted or don't like what they're tasting and are taking it out on the wrong people.
Hopping from Blue Moon to a DIPA or Imperial Stout isn't the best idea. People don't know what they don't know....
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01-12-2012, 01:30 AM
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The "rant" wasn't Sam knocking drinkers for not liking his beer. It's worth reading it. He's basically annoyed that folks are writing off all sorts of craft beers as crap, possibly as a means to praise other beers. He's basically reiterating 'to each his own' And 'can't we all just get along.'
Overpriced is another funny notion. What you'll pay for a beer is as individual a choice as whether you find a beer delicious or not. If I want something really special, I don't bat an eye at a $6 bomber. If I want a lot of beer for drinking by the river, $15 a cube is also an option. To each his own!
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Originally Posted by BrewMU
I've never had DFH, but people have a right to their opinion. You throw your product on the shelves, people pay for it; they just supposed to keep their mouth shut?
Obviously people have different taste, but I'll agree with a thread I saw running through that thread - some craft beers are overpriced, especially that sold by the single bottle, bomber or otherwise. Like Rogue - I got a six of they're Yellow Snow IPA for $10.99. At first I didn't like it, but by the last one I had a grudging respect. Not in the same class as Firestone-Walker, IMO, but okay.
Now skip to the bombers: Yellow Snow goes for $6.99. For another 50 cents I can get a bomber of Double Jack, which I like a lot better. Not worth it to me, and I'm not even remotely interested in betting 7 bucks on any of their other beers, which aren't available here by the six. But that's me - apparently enough people disagree to support the price. What's wrong with people trading opinions on this stuff? Should I worry that the CEO of Rogue is going to come on here and blast me? It's all just my opinion, and his.
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01-12-2012, 01:31 AM
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+1 It can be a pricey gamble, but if you decide you like it, it's worth it. If you don't like it, you got ripped off!
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I do wonder if people are calling a brewery "over rated" because they did pay a premium for the brew and didn't like it. Willing to bet that if they were paying 4.00 a sixer, it wouldn't bother them as much.
Not saying that all beers cost too much - as a home brewer I know how expensive it is to create good beer with a small economy of scale. I agree with the brewer charging what they need to so they can make a buck - I just wonder if as craft brew grows and more people are trying it, they've got unreasonable expectations and a palate that isn't up to speed just yet.
LOTS of people have used Blue Moon or Shocktop as their gateway to craft beer and now that they're paying a premium for real craft - they feel slighted or don't like what they're tasting and are taking it out on the wrong people.
Hopping from Blue Moon to a DIPA or Imperial Stout isn't the best idea. People don't know what they don't know....
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01-12-2012, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ClarnoBrewer
+1 It can be a pricey gamble, but if you decide you like it, it's worth it. If you don't like it, you got ripped off!
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Personally I consider buying any IPA in a store to be a pricey gamble, lol.
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01-12-2012, 01:36 AM
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Why do you refer to it as a rant? Just curious as all too often it seems that whenever someone with some basis to make a well informed response suddenly it gets considered as a rant.
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I think even he would say he was ranting. I am Not too sure of websters definition of the word but it seemed to fit what I read .... Another guy more specifically called it a diatribe ... Either way, you could tell he was pissed.
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01-12-2012, 01:42 AM
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Kudos to Sam for reminding people that taste is subjective, and that bickering gets you nowhere.
As a Delaware native, I have been drinking Dogfish Head since '98, long before Brewmasters, when they were just an up and comer. Ahhh, the good old days, when everyone hated on Jim Koch from Boston Brewing Co. instead 
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01-12-2012, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by wailingguitar
I used the word "rant" since that was the word used in the title of the thread! If you read my post, obviously I haven't even been able to read it yet! WTH?
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You said you had a hard time linking to it, I figured you meant reposting the link elsewhere. No insult meant, I was just asking why you called it a rant.
@Cadarnell, from dictionary.com:
Rant
[rant] Origin
rant
/rænt/ Show Spelled[rant] Show IPA
verb (used without object)
1.
to speak or declaim extravagantly or violently; talk in a wild or vehement way; rave: The demagogue ranted for hours.
That doesn't seem to fit his post. I'm no English major and I'm most likely only citing this as a result of my annoyance to the frequent misuse of the term anytime someone that has a professional basis in a field speaks up about something.
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01-12-2012, 01:50 AM
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Ahhh, the good old days, when everyone hated on Jim Koch from Boston Brewing Co. instead
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Must have been around the time Sammy Light was released.
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01-12-2012, 01:51 AM
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I stopped by a local liquor store to pick up some beers and such after work and I noticed a 4 pack of DFH 120, and it was stickered at $29.00. I laughed and quickly grabbed a bomber of Stone Smoked Porter and and some ciders. At check out I told the guy he should go back and check the price, and he's like, "no man, that's the right price it's normally $12 per 12oz bottle, but it wasn't selling so we packed it into a 4 pack"
I'm sure I've had it before and I'm sure that is not the price, am I wrong? So I have to wonder about the hype that the distributor is putting into selling it to this somewhat ghetto liquor store in the suburbs.
Overall, it's a great brewery in my opinion, but no I don't care for all of their beers, but I always look forward to trying them because they're different, even compared to many craft brews.
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