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Old 05-26-2012, 08:07 PM   #291
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Well as long as Vinnie is here and we're wishing for things... *takes deep breath*

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Old 05-26-2012, 08:17 PM   #292
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Props to Vinnie and RR Brewing.. I'm a fan.

Don't know if you will be at BeerFest 21 in SR.. but, I can hope.. I hope, I hope

In the meantime.. I hope the blowhard is "put in his place"

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Old 05-26-2012, 08:19 PM   #293
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This post should be noted in the sociology study of message boards at MIT. It's a classic.

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Old 05-26-2012, 08:19 PM   #294
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Ok, so RR is using Cargill's IdaPils... this is one of their malts that I know by reputation. IdaPils is made with 2-row Harrington, grown, as noted above, in small quantities in specific places. I think it is more than safe to say this is a high quality malt... I am thinking it would make a VERY nice Helles... hmmm... wheels are turning!

Also, may I say I appreciate Ron and Vinnie (and whoever the other Cargill employee was) coming and posting here. Well done, folks. Because of the personal attention here I can see Cargill added to my short list of suppliers (grown now from 2 to 3) for a project that is in the fire...

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Old 05-26-2012, 08:26 PM   #295
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Well as long as Vinnie is here and we're wishing for things... *takes deep breath*
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:53 PM   #296
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What a fantastic thread. Thank you.

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I've never known RR to be anything but up-front with the homebrewing community, and this is just another example of that. He took the time to respond to concerns about his company, in person, to what is most likely a relatively small portion of his overall consumers. It's business practices like this that will always keep me going back.

Thank you Vinnie

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If you haven't heard Vinnie speak (he's a great speaker), listen to this. Any home brewer who's dreamed of having their own brewery will love this story. Just do it.

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Old 05-27-2012, 02:01 AM   #299
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as an employee of Cargill, I must say that you are a hundred percent wrong in assuming we use GMO barley. You are also wrong in assuming we are cheap, low grade malt suppliers. In fact we are one of there more pricey suppliers because of our strict quality control and superior barley that we purchase from Canada and the United states.

Furthermore we have a great track record of working with our customers to deliver exactly what they want, when they want it, consistently time and time again.

Finally on our non business complaints. Most of them if not all are related to our other business areas namely meat and palm oil.

First we supply meat as demanded by our customers, that means you. Every time you go to a place with so called dubious meat quality you further the demand for cheap meat. You want it we supply it. You want high grade free range grass fed beef bitch at mcdonalds. Customers come to us with specs we just supply what they want. We can't sell a product no one wants, its a business.

And for our overseas operations, i.e. Palm oil, we follow all local laws and all American laws. Yes some rainforest destruction has occurred but no longer, we are on pace to be sustainable on our palm oil business.

Anyway a little off track but I get a little aggravated when Cargill catches a bad rap. We are private, quiet company that generally keeps to ourselves and that causes people to get the wrong idea.

Also we make the food you eat, you know what they say about the hand that feeds you.... (OK that parts a joke, couldn't resist)

* edit * these refutes aren't aimed at you wailingguitar it was just your response that prompted me to respond to all the negative Cargill related posts
I appreciate that, I tried to have your back through all this! Am hoping to do some business with Cargill Malting in the future too!
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