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Old 11-09-2009, 11:29 PM   #21
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How can you have "Black and Tan" on tap? A black + tan is usually Guinness plus Bass, with the Guinness on top. Or do you mean that since they have Guinness and Bass on tap they can make a Black + Tan?


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Old 11-09-2009, 11:36 PM   #22
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To put in my 2 cents, since you asked how we'd rate it, I'd say fairly poor - like 4 on a 1-10 scale. I usually ignore the bottle selection since at most of the restaurants I go to they already have a number of good beers on tap and they have most of their good local microbrew stuff on tap. If I have to go to bottles that's usually a sign of desperation because there were no good choices on tap.

That list has only 1 US beer on tap, and I don't frequently drink the import beers on that tap list because well I've already had them and they aren't that exciting.
For an Italian restaurant I would hope for a good IPA or APA on tap, since I like how those pair with pasta.
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Not sure how to rate it.

On one hand, there are about five beers there that I would enjoy. On the other hand, they are not anywhere near my favorites.

So compared to the average restaurant, that's a respectable list. But I tend to seek out and patronize places that have way above average beer lists, so compared to those, it's not very impressive.

I guess I'd give it a 60 on a scale of 100 because it's better than the average restaurant's list.
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For me, and I am sure alot of people here, this list is fairly pedestrian.....but for the most of the world, and paired with Italian cuisine, I would rate it 72
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How can you have "Black and Tan" on tap? A black + tan is usually Guinness plus Bass, with the Guinness on top. Or do you mean that since they have Guinness and Bass on tap they can make a Black + Tan?
There are a bunch of companies that make a 'pre-mixed' black and tan beer so it could be on etap without having to be poured from the two traditional ingredients.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:06 AM   #27
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Regarding the Black and Tan, I have no information on that. I'm almost certain that it's Guinness and Bass, but you should know there are offerings by breweries call Black and Tan, Yuengling comes to mind. We don't get that here, but there might be an AB knock-off.

Regarding the wine. This place has been awarded the Wine Spectator Award of Excellence several years running. If you're familiar with this award, you might remember that there was some controversy in that you nominate yourself and seldom does anyone check to verify that you have what you say you have in your cellar. Still it's something that these places hang their hats on.

Initially I was wondering if I was going to be too hard on these guys, but you've mostly affirmed my thoughts.
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In other words I went on the same rollercoaster of thought as the_bird and PsuedoChef.
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Seems like a lot of "commercial" beers. Needs a nice APA and IPA. A couple of Sierra Nevada beers would be a big improvement to the menu. Also, seems like a few too many beers in green bottles. One skunky beer tastes like the next...
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For any restaurant in SW Texas, this would be off the charts. But, for what I'm guessing is an upscale Italian joint in Phoenix, it's slightly above average.

I woulda guessed Greek joint maybe - because of the Balkan beers(surprised at those choices for an Italian joint). Although there's variety in the labels it doesn't seem the styles are very varied. I'd give it a 60 for being better than just regular BMC as choices.

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