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10-22-2008, 07:02 PM
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To Rack or Not To Rack
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Last edited by hefebrewer; 10-22-2008 at 07:05 PM.
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10-22-2008, 07:04 PM
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Link didn't work for me!
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10-22-2008, 07:11 PM
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Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc
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Actually most of us realize that autolysis is a boogeyman to the homebrewer so getting it off the yeast cake is of little concern...many of us here leave our beers in primary for between 3 and 4 weeks....This allows the yeast to go back, after fermentation, and clean up many of the byproducts of fermentation.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/let-beer-clean-up-after-itself-primary-what-does-mean-68823/
One of the benefits of this is a diacetyl restl. As mantioned in this thread http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/preventing-diacetyl-hold-butter-please-70438/
But I'd like to read this article...
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10-22-2008, 07:13 PM
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Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc
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Originally Posted by luckylindy345
Link didn't work for me!
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The naughty word filter kicked in...I wonder if this was just actually a spam attempt???
Yep....methinks it's a spammer...the post got edited...
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Revvy's one of the cool reverends. He has a Harley and a t-shirt that says on the back "If you can read this, the bitch was Raptured. - Madman
I gotta tell ya, just between us girls, that Revvy is HOT. Very tall, gorgeous grey hair and a terrific smile. He's very good looking in person, with a charismatic personality... he drives like a ****ing maniac! - YooperBrew
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10-22-2008, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Revvy
Yep....methinks it's a spammer...the post got edited...
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don't you hate giving good advice to a spammer?
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10-22-2008, 07:52 PM
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Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc
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Originally Posted by AZ_IPA
don't you hate giving good advice to a spammer?
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*sigh*....and I actually took the time to search those threads for him...I want those 30 seconds of my life back...
I think I figured it out...he was talking about "racking" right...I bet that that was a link to a bewbie site...
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Revvy's one of the cool reverends. He has a Harley and a t-shirt that says on the back "If you can read this, the bitch was Raptured. - Madman
I gotta tell ya, just between us girls, that Revvy is HOT. Very tall, gorgeous grey hair and a terrific smile. He's very good looking in person, with a charismatic personality... he drives like a ****ing maniac! - YooperBrew
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10-22-2008, 07:53 PM
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This person hit Beeradvocate as well. The site they linked to was pretty useful...
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10-22-2008, 07:56 PM
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PKU
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Originally Posted by Revvy
I want those 30 seconds of my life back...
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I figured you'd have some special cut & paste feature by now where you could with one click of the mouse have that post out. I think you only deserve at 4.2 seconds back... 
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10-22-2008, 08:00 PM
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Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc
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Originally Posted by AZ_IPA
I figured you'd have some special cut & paste feature by now where you could with one click of the mouse have that post out. I think you only deserve at 4.2 seconds back... |
Soulive's right it was a good article, but he cites the same reasoning I and others leave it in primary for a month...
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Homebrewers have varied opinions on what to do with beer once it nears the end of fermentation. Many choose to move the beer off of the fallen yeast in an effort to produce a clean finished beer and/or to avoid the off flavors caused by autolysis. While the fears of autolysis are a scientific fact, it would appear from my experience that the off flavors are produced over a longer period of time than common wisdom would suggest at the temperatures and conditions that homebrewers are used to. The end of fermentation regimen outlined above allows the advantageous benefits of yeast cleanup processes after apparent fermentation is complete while avoiding contamination and oxidation inherent in racking beer to another container. In addition, the use of a refrigerated rest before bottling or kegging allows the yeast to fall out of suspension and consistently produces a clean end product.
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...I wonder if the site he linked it to is on our very rare list of banned sites to link to?
oh I get it...the site that it was linked to is another social networking site for homebrewers....but ours is better....
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Revvy's one of the cool reverends. He has a Harley and a t-shirt that says on the back "If you can read this, the bitch was Raptured. - Madman
I gotta tell ya, just between us girls, that Revvy is HOT. Very tall, gorgeous grey hair and a terrific smile. He's very good looking in person, with a charismatic personality... he drives like a ****ing maniac! - YooperBrew
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10-22-2008, 08:24 PM
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I still want to talk about the question at hand. I've been racking to secondary for...a LONG time ago. It seems like most users on here do not use a secondary. The lazy person in me is very attracted to this (almost more so than the brewer)...
However, I always pitch right onto the old yeast cake (no cleaning or anything) twice (that is three batches of beer, increasing in gravity, off of one starter pitch). I WOULD start to get autolysis off-flavors at that point wouldn't I? I mean, we're talking 12 weeks on one yeast cake.
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