Sure, light and dark beers are both wonderful... but Budweiser isn't even beer, it uses too many adjuncts mostly RICE!!!
Okay, you get to be the one that tells the Belgians their some of the things they claim as 'beer' aren't because they use adjuncts. They actually dare to use SUGAR!!!, which is even more neutral than RICE!!!
The Rheinheitsgebot is not the be-all and end-all of defining what is and isn't beer; it's merely the legal requirements that one particular brewing tradition was required to adhere to. I can easily come up with many, many laws from other countries under which light lagers brewed with adjuncts are beer.
Do I drink Budweiser? No. Because I don't like it. But it would be silly to prat about claiming that it's not beer just because I don't like it.
Isn't the real issue not light and dark, but something much much older???
aren't we forgetting the Reinheitsgebot?
Sure, light and dark beers are both wonderful... but Budweiser isn't even beer, it uses too many adjuncts mostly RICE!!!
Oh, please tell me that every beer you brew conforms to that old, archaic law. There's nothing wrong with beer brewed IAW the Reinheitsgebot, but there are plenty of great beers that are well outside its boundaries. By the way, even the Germans conceded that wheat malt and cane sugar have their place in beer brewing.
Exactly how many adjuncts are "too many?" Is my oatmeal stout not beer? What about my Belgian wit?
The Reinheitsgebot has little to nothing to do with the discussion here.
flowerysong, some forms of Belgian candi sugar are actually capable of adding as much flavor and color as dark roasted malts. Clear/light candi sugar might be fairly neutral, but you're making a rather broad generalization.
The Reiheitsgebot was a great consumer protection law when it was laid down, and it might still be. However, it doesn't define what beer is. For example, any beer that includes unmalted grains, including unmalted barley, is outside that law.
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The original Reiheitsgebot didn't allow the use of yeast and only applied to a single city, in a single country. It also restricted when you could brew various beers.
Around the same time, another German city banned the brewing of beer forever.
People make a lot of soup out of this mouse.
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Speaking of the Hobgoblin adv, I found this amazingly funny:
"Complaint
Objection to a national press ad for beer that was headed "Afraid of the dark, Lagerboy?" and stated "HOBGOBLIN Deliciously dark". The ad featured a picture of a hobgoblin holding a pint of beer.
1. The complainant, a lager drinker, objected that the ad was aggressive and offensive.
2. The ASA challenged whether the ad was irresponsible, because it portrayed drinking Hobgoblin as a challenge."
i believe orfy has a picture that says: "What's the matter, lager-boy? afraid you'll taste something?"
This is definitely the quote that sums up the BMC crowd to me. I want to taste something when I drink beer or anything other than water. Ofcourse many people have misconceptions about what a dark beer tastes like or even what a microbrew tastes like. However more and more people are finding out. I still think many BMC drinkers are like my wife and father-in-law. They really don't like BMC or any other beer but BMC is an inexpensive and readily available alcohol. Kind of the reason many people eat at McDonalds.
Craig
its not even really light or dark beer it's flavor vs none. I had a smithwick's the other day and all I could think was coors with brown food coloring.
I really like witchwood's advertising stuff though.
I wonder if Orfy knows of anywhere I can buy some posters or something from them? A local bar has an awesome one that says "Drink this magic elixir and she'll be beautiful." With a hobgoblin holding a pint and a witch in the background.
I wonder if Orfy knows of anywhere I can buy some posters or something from them? A local bar has an awesome one that says "Drink this magic elixir and she'll be beautiful." With a hobgoblin holding a pint and a witch in the background.
I'd start here and see what the shipping terms are to the US
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