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Old 01-24-2008, 04:33 PM   #11
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I have found that the BMC drinkers think that "floofy german fancy beer drinkers" are the real sissies. That a real man loves an ice cold bud.

I met one poor sap who will only drink BMC and guinness.

I was like "WTF???.......you are almost there!" but he won't budge.
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I managed to convert most of my friends. For myself it wasn't about 'being a man' or anything, it also wasn't about light vs dark. It was just about making them see that there is a huge range of beers available. Dark just became the hot topic because of course, none of the mainstream BMC are dark so that's not what they're used to.
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The dark vs light beer argument is tough now that Budweiser has enlightened us with "dark beers are more forgiving of flaws". I mean their marketing execs are never wrong...
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I dunno... seems to me that people who think beer is better just because it's dark aren't much better than the folks who won't drink it just because it's dark

I mean, it's not really about the color, right?
My thoughts exactly. I like me some dark beer, but I've also had my fair share of nasty dark beer. Same for lighter beers.
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The dark vs light beer argument is tough now that Budweiser has enlightened us with "dark beers are more forgiving of flaws". I mean their marketing execs are never wrong...
While their ultimate point---that their beer is better because it's lighter---is retarded, the specific declaration that A.L.L. is less forgiving of flaws is ultimately true. This is why that style is one of the hardest to brew correctly. It's even in BYO's "10 Hardest Styles to Brew" article:

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An American Pilsner can be summed up in two words — flavorless and flawless. American Pilsners have little malt flavor, hop character or body. But, these elements are balanced and there are no faults.
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While their ultimate point---that their beer is better because it's lighter---is retarded, the specific declaration that A.L.L. is less forgiving of flaws is ultimately true. This is why that style is one of the hardest to brew correctly. It's even in BYO's "10 Hardest Styles to Brew" article:
That's why I don't argue the idea that their beer's style is less forgiving. I just take offense to them trying to label any dark beers as more forgiving...
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Or rather, their implication that dark beers are inherantly flawed because they can be.
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yeah, that statement pisses me off regardless of how true it is
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I mean, it's not really about the color, right?

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Isn't the real issue not light and dark, but something much much older???

aren't we forgetting the Reinheitsgebot?

Sure, light and dark beers are both wonderful... but Budweiser isn't even beer, it uses too many adjuncts mostly RICE!!!

let them find another way to market their fizzy yellow grain alcohol water.

or maybe call it malt saki, they can market it to the japanese...
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