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Old 04-21-2013, 04:11 AM   #1
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I am having a hard time accomplishing this. I think the problem is both my brews are the same gravity. My irish stout and EPA are 1.013 gravity. I tried straight from the tap and that wouldn't work. I tried pouring from a separate glass and that didn't work. The beer keeps mixing together, however it still tastes delicious. Does anybody have experience with this? Any tips on how to pour this wonderful beer?

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Old 04-21-2013, 04:17 AM   #2
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Im no bartender but when ive ordered one at a bar the bartender poured the ale first then the stout over a spoon... Ive never done it tho

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Old 04-21-2013, 04:22 AM   #3
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Im no bartender but when ive ordered one at a bar the bartender poured the ale first then the stout over a spoon... Ive never done it tho
That's what I've been trying to do. The beer keeps mixing together, no separation of the two beers.
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Maybe give the ale a aggressive pour to give it a nice head.... That may help keep it separated

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I think the whole point is that the higher gravity beer keeps the lower gravity beer on top. If the are the same gravity they will mix. Right?

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Tried that...

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I think the whole point is that the higher gravity beer keeps the lower gravity beer on top. If the are the same gravity they will mix. Right?
That's what I'm thinking. I should have looked at the gravity of each beer before making them. I made these two beers just so I can make black and tans.
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Tried that...

That's what I'm thinking. I should have looked at the gravity of each beer before making them. I made these two beers just so I can make black and tans.
Well now they are just mixed like Black and Tans in the UK.
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I got a hankering for a black and tan a few weeks ago and searched around for good homebrew B&T combos. From what I saw, the final gravities are usually at least .005-.010 different, and usually more. So if you want a dark beer on top (the traditional method), you have to go with a dry stout or something similar. I had just brewed a sweet stout with lactose (Deception Cream Stout) and it was too high a final gravity to be on top of most anything (1.020). I guess I could put a dry cider on top, though I think that's called something else. Now that I mention it, EdWort's apfelwine has been on my "to-brew" list for a while...

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I got a hankering for a black and tan a few weeks ago and searched around for good homebrew B&T combos. From what I saw, the final gravities are usually at least .005-.010 different, and usually more. So if you want a dark beer on top (the traditional method), you have to go with a dry stout or something similar. I had just brewed a sweet stout with lactose (Deception Cream Stout) and it was too high a final gravity to be on top of most anything (1.020). I guess I could put a dry cider on top, though I think that's called something else. Now that I mention it, EdWort's apfelwine has been on my "to-brew" list for a while...
Dry stout is what I made. How can we control what the FG is? The yeast will do what they want to do.
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Are you brewing with extract or all grain? With extract you are limited in options, you could add some less fermentable specialty grains. If you're brewing all grain mash temps can play a huge part in your expected FG.

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