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Old 08-13-2012, 01:25 PM   #1
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Default PortaKeg trying to get starting money

This product looks like it will be sweet! http://www.indiegogo.com/portakeg
These guys are from my area and came up with this idea... they just need the funds to buy the molds. Please help out if you can... I would love to take my home brew kegs to parties in this!

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Old 08-13-2012, 04:04 PM   #2
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It's kinda already been done, except these guys added a thermoelectric element to the unit:

http://www.beercooler.com/

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Old 08-13-2012, 04:10 PM   #3
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Their project lists the $500 donation range as being what you need to get the "portakeg", and that's $100 less than retail.

$600 for a cooler with a paintball serving kit installed?

Yikes.

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Old 08-17-2012, 11:53 PM   #4
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@JonnySax Thanks for posting about us!!

@TopherM We saw that product when we first were looking for portable draft beer systems three years ago. However, there were a couple of things that didn't work for what we had hoped to find: 1) it didn't have wheels that could easily go over pavement or gravel; 2) it used a standard metal tower that we didn't think would survive travel; and 3) we couldn't actually buy one (as you can see, there's nowhere at their site to purchase, best I can find is a used one on eBay for $400). We've spoken with individuals in the industry, from marketing executives to microbreweries about what they need in a design and have integrated those features in the PortaKeg. As a result, we have a patent-pending cooler design that, we think, is the most user-friendly (and attractive) system available.

@Raenon Obviously, we're hoping for reactions other than "Yikes." What are your concerns? Why doesn't that seem to be reasonable given other portable systems available (the only two options we have found are a trash can strapped to a dolly for $925 [http://www.micromatic.com/draft-keg-...PK-DA-CH.html] and the complete SuperCooler system, which isn't able to be transported in as many areas, for $860 [http://www.micromatic.com/draft-keg-...3026A1.html])? We've attempted to build an easy-to-use system with a CO2 source that is more accessible for consumers than the other options we've seen (i.e. can be refilled at sporting goods stores as opposed to expensive single-use cartridges or larger CO2 tanks that have to be specially filled).

Your feedback is incredibly important to what we choose to do moving forward. We try to integrate suggestions from many areas into our design to make it functional for consumers and commercial users alike. If you have any thoughts, either reply here or feel free to email me personally at albert@portabeer.com.

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Old 08-18-2012, 01:14 AM   #5
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What I find odd about all these begging plans is that none of them offer a real investment. If the product or project had real potential, people would be willing to invest for a chance at a return on the investment.

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Old 08-18-2012, 01:20 AM   #6
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I'm not sure how you personally started up, bobby, but I would think a small venture like this would lack any investment opportunity...please correct me if I'm wrong! And give this guy some pointers !

Neutral disclosure, bobby, your site is referenced on my upcoming bday list

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Old 08-18-2012, 01:39 AM   #7
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@Raenon Obviously, we're hoping for reactions other than "Yikes." What are your concerns?
maybe as a curiosity or targeted to a different audience, but here with brewers, many are at the top of their game with DIY equipment.

"$600 for a cooler with a paintball serving kit installed?

Yikes. "

is the expected and reasonable response.
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what i find odd about all these begging plans is that none of them offer a real investment. If the product or project had real potential, people would be willing to invest for a chance at a return on the investment.
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:39 AM   #9
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Thank you all for thoughts/feedback.

I'd certainly be willing to engage in a conversation about crowdfunding, but it's probably not appropriate on this forum. I can say that it has its strengths and weaknesses and, from what I can tell, will be a net-positive for us regardless of whether we hit the number.

@amandabab That's a fair point. We're home brewers and are fans of a wide variety of beers. We looked at many of the DIY systems available and didn't see anything that we thought was a particularly elegant solution to remote draft dispensing. We decided to take a chance on designing something ourselves to combine our love of good draft beer with our love of tailgating and camping. It was only after we had positive feedback from other tailgaters, breweries, and others that we decided to try to make the project into a company.

Once again, I appreciate the interest and passion on the subject. Feedback is always welcome.

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Old 08-18-2012, 02:16 PM   #10
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It seems like a great design. While $600 seems like a lot for a homebrewer, I'm sure beer distibutors and bars would have no problem shelling out that kind of money.

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