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Old 06-22-2011, 06:06 AM   #1
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I just brewed a Pliny the elder clone and have to say, EVERY ipa I have ever loved seems well, just not as good. Don't get me wrong, I still brew them, buy them, of course drink them, but I feel empty inside if I start with a Pliny (clone) and try to drink my own recipes (which I used to love) or even some of my old favs like ranger after one. What is really disheartening is after I visited the Russian River site, it seems there won't ever be a way to actually try the original Pliny short of buying a plane ticket in the hopes I can find it in CA.
Are there any bleeding hearts out there willing to work out a trade or show me how I can buy some? I am in the heart of a three tiered slow to get with program state (Iowa, Des Moines-check out the south park episode where they find the guy frozen for 3 three years and send him to Des Moines to listen to Ace of Base, lol). They just approved brewing beer higher than 3.5% here a year ago.
To make matters worse, I can't brew it again since I can't get simcoe till fall due to the shortage that supposedly didn't exsist, and daddy needs his medicine!
Help!? Daddy is sick!?

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Old 06-22-2011, 06:27 AM   #2
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Guess what brother, that is not a Pliny that you made. It's a Moinky.

The recipe is only half the game at best. You did the mash, the sparge, the boil, the hop additions. You pitched the yeast and controlled the ferm temps. It was all you.

There are probably guys that could not have made a decent beer were they at RR with Vinnie looking over their shoulder.

Don't feel empty, feel proud. Fill up on your Moinky!

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Where did you get your clone? Extract or AG? I'm looking for an extract clone.

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Old 06-22-2011, 07:20 AM   #4
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I can't! Simcoe shortage! Thanks for the confidence builder, and you are correct, but I never would have attempted this without all of the hype around the original. Moinky is humble, and bows to the Vinnie, if this is what the creation is.

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http://hopville.com/recipe/650808/im...he-elder-clone
That's what I followed, came from an interview I read with the Vinnie. The greatest joy when you open a beer that has been fermenting (well sort of, secondary dry hops, and sitting in bottle forever) is that smell. Smells just like opening a packet of hops, my favorite part of the brewing process. I wish I could describe it to you guys online, but my computer still won't transfer tastes and smells. Thanks the inernet-lordee, (imagine porn).
What I am getting at is THE Pliny the Elder must be truly masterful. Wish I could find one. Hope this helps you, but it will only make you jones...
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I just brewed a Pliny the elder clone and have to say, EVERY ipa I have ever loved seems well, just not as good. Don't get me wrong, I still brew them, buy them, of course drink them, but I feel empty inside if I start with a Pliny (clone) and try to drink my own recipes (which I used to love) or even some of my old favs like ranger after one. What is really disheartening is after I visited the Russian River site, it seems there won't ever be a way to actually try the original Pliny short of buying a plane ticket in the hopes I can find it in CA.
Are there any bleeding hearts out there willing to work out a trade or show me how I can buy some? I am in the heart of a three tiered slow to get with program state (Iowa, Des Moines-check out the south park episode where they find the guy frozen for 3 three years and send him to Des Moines to listen to Ace of Base, lol). They just approved brewing beer higher than 3.5% here a year ago.
To make matters worse, I can't brew it again since I can't get simcoe till fall due to the shortage that supposedly didn't exsist, and daddy needs his medicine!
Help!? Daddy is sick!?
If Iowa allows shipments of beer, there are lots of stores in CA that will sell you Pliny. Just use google (I use South Bay Drugs, but they aren't shipping currently while they move to a larger location).

The trick is, retailers get specifically timed and small shipments of Pliny so anyone who sells it online will sell out in a day or two. So find a place that sells it, call, ask when their next shipment is, mark your calendar, and buy some that day.

Also, if you want it draught, you just have to fly to Denver or Philly. It is always on at Falling Rock in Denver. I'm sure someone can tell you where to go in Philly to get it.
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I agree you brewed it, it is yours.

I agree PTE and clones are freaking awesome!

I agree the Simcoe shortage sucks...


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I am right there with you OP. My clone of THE Pliny was named "the best IPA I have ever had" by a friend of mine. I agree that this was a game changer as far as fully hopped IPAs go for me. THEE Simcoe is a key ingredient in the beer, as is THEE columbus in the dry hop that gives you all that glorius hop oil to coat your mouth. GD my friend, you have given me a powerful thirst now, and I am stuck at work for the next few hours! I must admit I saw the writing on the wall in the Spring and purchased enough Simcoe to take me through the summer. Yes, blame me for my local shortage, or just blame Canada Last year I drug my family from Elmo's world in PA to downtown Philly to try and get a pint of the real thing. Alas, the keg was dry and a new one was not in for another few weeks. The real Pliny is as elusive as a tax free society

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As Simcoe will not be available until the next harvest, you might want to give "Falconer's Flight" hop blend a try as a substitute.

"Hopunion LLC Falconer's Flight™ is a proprietary pellet blend comprised of many of the Northwest's most premier hop varieties including the highly acclaimed Citra™, Simcoe®, and Sorachi Ace along with experimental hops and numerous other NW varieties."

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Austin has whole leaf simcoe online, why not buy from them?

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