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Old 01-29-2009, 06:07 PM   #1
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I totally agree with this guys point about the economy of homebrewing but it urks me that he is giving extract brewing the status that you can't make great beer. I have been doing all-grain for some time but I still think that you can make great beer easily using extract when your a new brewer as long as you have done all of the reading and have the right tools.

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I read the post you linked and didn't come away thinking that you can't make good beer with extract. He mentions that by transitioning to all-grain, you may be able to bring your costs down. That's not bashing extract brewing IMO.

Anyway, you and I are in agreement that good beer can be made with good extract and good methods.

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Yeah I read over it again but in the comments he still doesn't think a noob could make a good beer from the start, I guess I'm just kind of defensive right now because I have a friend I'm getting into brewing and I'm trying to dispel myths about extract brewing.

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I can see that. He said that the first few batches are probably going to be sucky and most brewers start out with extract. Putting 2 & 2 together, I can see how one would infer that brewing with extract makes sucky beer. I don't think that was his intention, however.

A friend of mine at work is learning how to brew, and we've been talking alot about it. He's using extract and has been unhappy with some of his beers and really likes my beer. So, naturally, he thought that he needs to go AG to get good beer. Instead of encouraging that, I've been helping him with his process, showing him how to control fermentation temps, cool his wort quicker, pitch healthy amounts of yeast, get good extract, etc. His beers have gotten a lot better because of it. He will eventually move to AG, but for the right reasons.

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I have always done extract brewing , and dad did too. Steeping grains and using quality extract and hops always yields quality brew for me.

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But I have to say that AG gives a little more control and freedom. Come tax return time, I am hoping to get a cooler MT/LT and try my first AG by myself. I have helped my uncle a couple times, and I think this is my next step.

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Lots of people assume you just need more expensive equipment and
more elaborate methods to make things work well. Same thing applies
to music, etc.

As with anything, these are only tools to increase potential.

Much of the underlying reasons for quality in any venture are a thorough
understanding of fundamental principles and a good deal of discipline and
practice.

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Lots of people assume you just need more expensive equipment and
more elaborate methods to make things work well. Same thing applies
to music, etc.
You know what I tell people like that? If you have the best golf clubs on the planet, tiger woods will still kick your ass with a set of clubs from wal-mart!
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You know what I tell people like that? If you have the best golf clubs on the planet, tiger woods will still kick your ass with a set of clubs from wal-mart!
True dat! I don't think that when I worked at the LHBS the owner liked me telling people this, I wasn't much of a salesman always wanted to get people into the hobby on the cheap.
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IMO places like LHBS should be more worried about honesty
and support than blowing the roof off their profit margin.

Just my .02 though I'm not eating based on my LHBS income.

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