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Old 07-12-2012, 10:33 PM   #1
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Default Perlini force carbonation system, carbing after pouring

So i've been looking at option for carbing a high gravity beer 20%+ without a full keg and carb setup. My original intent was to do this in bottle but I couldn't find a sollution. I cam across this idea when watching a show on maknig cocktails. They use it to force carb a cocktail or any liquid for that matter. Yes it costs $200 but pretty cool non the less. Anyone use a system like this and do you think it would work for a flat beer?

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Old 07-12-2012, 10:39 PM   #2
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Sure, it would work, though there doesn't appear to be a adjustable regulator in the system. Considering that it runs about the same price as a kegging setup, what's the advantage? For about half of this, you could get a CO2 tank, regulator, and carbonator cap to do the same thing with more flexibility.

(Not meaning to talk you out of it, but I want to make sure I understand what you're trying to do.)

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why does it come with a flash drive?

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If I understand correctly it has a built in regulator that stops the c02 at the "appropriate" time. They say you need to shake the container when done to infuse the c02 into the liquid quickly. I've never used a keg setup so don't really know the process and it very well might be the better option. I was just researching options. I was also wondering...I have a handheld C02 pump for my bike, would there be a way to use that to carb a poured beer into a plastic bottle. I don't know how I would regulate it though and how to not let the pressure escape when I remove the pump?

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If I understand correctly it has a built in regulator that stops the c02 at the "appropriate" time. They say you need to shake the container when done to infuse the c02 into the liquid quickly. I've never used a keg setup so don't really know the process and it very well might be the better option. I was just researching options. I was also wondering...I have a handheld C02 pump for my bike, would there be a way to use that to carb a poured beer into a plastic bottle. I don't know how I would regulate it though and how to not let the pressure escape when I remove the pump?
Right, it's definitely got a regulator mechanism of some sort, but it doesn't have an adjustable regulator. If you can tweak the pressure output, you can carbonate to any degree that you want.

The CO2 pump for your bike uses 16-gram cartridges, I assume? If so, you would need a way of attaching a valve to a soda lid somehow. I've seen people do it, for example here: http://www.examiner.com/article/buil...carbonator-cap

If you are going to be doing this often, though, it's worth investing in a CO2 tank. Those cartridges don't last very long, and they'll get expensive quickly. You can get a CO2 tank and regulator for something in the ~$150 range (often cheaper used), and that would let you put a ball lock valve (the "carbonator cap": http://www.amazon.com/LiquidBread-Th...carbonator+cap) onto most plastic soda bottles.

If you go that route, you can carb up very quickly. Between my first post in the thread and this one, I carbonated four liters of fizzy ginger soda and am drinking it right now. Takes a minute of shaking or so, but it's pretty simple and foolproof.

FWIW, I don't love doing beer this way, but it works. I tend to have pretty poor head retention with insta-carbed beer, possibly because of the shaking.
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Great. Thanks for the links.

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Perlini CopyCat Hack

I want to try carbonated cocktails and spending $100-$200 on a Perlini is a bit too spendy, since I already have a home carbonator setup.

http://www.ourfoodshed.com/blog/2012...ated-Cocktails
...Other recipes available if you google: Perlini carbonation recipes , or carbonated cocktails

The Perlini is made of Lexan-plastic and opens to reveal a wide-opening to add ice

That got me thinking about using a BPA-Free Lexan-plastic wide mouth Nalgene Bottle

I google around a bit and found that others had used Nalgenes as "pressure vessels" either with dry ice (for fruit) or compressed air


Compressed Air + Nalgene
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/poo...le-273326.html

Dry Ice and Fruit + Nalgene
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-...ruit/?ALLSTEPS

PVC pipe as a CO2 pressure vessel + how to make your own home carbonator...
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-...n-ca/?ALLSTEPS

I am going to make my own Perlini-style drink shaker with a 1-1.5L Nalgene bottle and one of the stainless valve stems sold on ebay see: "Tubeless stainless Tire Valve Stem straight"

Similar to the previously mentioned Compressed Air + Nalgene and I will likely put the valve in the cap so I have an easy to work with flat surface that is replaceable, if needed.

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