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Old 11-29-2007, 06:52 PM   #1
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Default Perhaps Some Good News on the Horizon re: Grain Prices

As many of you know, a big reason for the upcoming rise in grain prices is that many farmers are electing to switch their field over to corn, which in turn cuts the grain supply down and prices go up. The reason many have been switching is because good ol' Dub and the Congress have decided that ethanol is the future of alternative fuels...and thus, a great deal more corn subsidies are offered, alongside requirements that force refineries to blend a certain amount of ethanol into their fuels (which is, in effect, also a subsidy). I've been decrying this as BS for awhile now, given that ethanol fuel has a net energy loss after you factor in growing the corn and turning it into fuel...not to mention the environmental effects of increased corn production. But, as usual, the gubmint thought that they were smarter than the rest of us, and had to f*ck with the market.

Well, I'm not sure just how much Congress listens to "facts" and "science", but this article is encouraging nonetheless, especially given where it's coming from.


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Hear hear! Thanks for sharing.
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Interesting read, but I've figured out how to fuel my vehicle from spent grains - therefore I have to brew or I can't leave the house.
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Of course Ethanol is a loss-

However if Corn was switched to Hemp which produes more and can be grown anywhere - Ethanol could be more viable.

However Ethanol is a lost cause and we should be looking for better alternatives like Hydrogen or pure electricity.
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However Ethanol is a lost cause and we should be looking for better alternatives like Hydrogen or pure electricity.
Hydrogen production requires more oil than just running a car on gas.
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...and "pure electricity" still has to come from some kind of fuel source. It doesn't just magically shoot out of your wall receptacles.
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I think by pure electricity you were referring to wind and solar energy, which I agree with you.
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I think by pure electricity you were referring to wind and solar energy, which I agree with you.
I figured he was talking about full-electric cars, which still require a power source, most likely a municipal one that is likely fueled by coal.
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people, most of the fad crap the government touts is pure BS being repeated by a bunch of people who don't understand the concepts....leading to...

-ethanol as our savior fuel
-stem cell research being effectively cut off from gov't funding
-the 'new' stem cell data released last week seeming like it actually is good when in reality, not so much
-terrorism being such a huge threat
-GM foods being thought of as 'dangerous'

anyone else want to add?
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I could make a list a mile long.
  • Drugs are bad, mmmkay, and we need to spend trillions of dollars making sure people can't get high.
  • Prescription drugs are a scourge and we need to put doctors in prison for life if they don't prescribe drugs the way the government wants them to.
  • We need a nanny government to solve all of our problems like obesity and smoking and video games.


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98: Moss Hollow Soured '09 72: Oude Kriek 99: B-Weisse 102: Brett'd BDSA 104: Feat of Strength Helles Bock 105: Merkin Brown
.on tap | kegged:
XX: Moss Hollow Springs Sparkling Water 95: Gott Mit Uns German Pils 91b: Brown Willie's Oaked Abbey Ale 103: Merkin Stout
98: Yorkshire Special 100: Maple Porter 89: Cidre Saison 101: Steffiweizen '09 (#3)

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