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Old 11-05-2012, 10:13 PM   #11
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What was your hop schedule?
yes, do tell.
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:08 AM   #12
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Horrible, horrible hop. The written descriptions make it sound enticing, but it's really an unpleasant hop. Yeah, it has some berry notes, but they're harsh. Not recommended.

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Old 11-06-2012, 12:04 PM   #13
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Although I have yet to try them, I have 4 oz waiting to be used. I appreciate your opinion, but my since everyone's palette is different I still am going to make something with them; I was thinking an English style pale ale with all late additions of Pacific Gem.

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Old 11-06-2012, 12:50 PM   #14
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Of course you gotta try yourself, just thought I'd chime in as I HATE them. I think they're not appropriate for aroma or flavor additions but work fine for bittering. Anyway, have at it. Who knows, maybe you'll like them.

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Hop schedule was 0.5 oz. at each of 60, 13, 5, and 0 minutes.

Matt, maybe you got some nasty bad hops, or maybe they don't agree with Croatian water chemistry, because the beer I made with these was delicious. I have made 2 batches of this and it has been the favourite of my beer snob friends. Very clean, some toasted oak dryness notes to the bittering, subtle blackberry finish. I strongly recommend doing this with some vienna or pils malt as the fruitiness really accentuates the berry notes. I used Kolsch yeast too...

I dunno man, this is in my permanent rotation now and it disappears really quickly.

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Old 11-07-2012, 02:26 PM   #16
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Hop schedule was 0.5 oz. at each of 60, 13, 5, and 0 minutes.

Matt, maybe you got some nasty bad hops, or maybe they don't agree with Croatian water chemistry, because the beer I made with these was delicious. I have made 2 batches of this and it has been the favourite of my beer snob friends. Very clean, some toasted oak dryness notes to the bittering, subtle blackberry finish. I strongly recommend doing this with some vienna or pils malt as the fruitiness really accentuates the berry notes. I used Kolsch yeast too...

I dunno man, this is in my permanent rotation now and it disappears really quickly.
Hmmm,I was going to brew a partial mash version of my sunset gold APA with pacific gem & one of the other NZ hops I have a pound of. I liked the idea of the oak & Berry together. I bought like 3oz each of some 5 varieties of NZ hops when midwest had'em on sale.
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Hmmm,I was going to brew a partial mash version of my sunset gold APA with pacific gem & one of the other NZ hops I have a pound of. I liked the idea of the oak & Berry together. I bought like 3oz each of some 5 varieties of NZ hops when midwest had'em on sale.
Sounds tasty! I love me some NZ hops!
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So far the grain bill looks like;
2lb rahr 2-row
2lb marris otter (crisp)
.5lb crystal 20L
.5lb carapils
3.3lb gold LME
Pacific gem & one othe NZ hop at 20 & 10 minutes. Gotta look at the profiles of the ones I have to figure which will go well with the pacific gem. I got an ounce of Saaz & US Fuggle that might be interesting for a smooth bittering.
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Hop schedule was 0.5 oz. at each of 60, 13, 5, and 0 minutes.

Matt, maybe you got some nasty bad hops, or maybe they don't agree with Croatian water chemistry, because the beer I made with these was delicious. I have made 2 batches of this and it has been the favourite of my beer snob friends. Very clean, some toasted oak dryness notes to the bittering, subtle blackberry finish. I strongly recommend doing this with some vienna or pils malt as the fruitiness really accentuates the berry notes. I used Kolsch yeast too...

I dunno man, this is in my permanent rotation now and it disappears really quickly.
I doubt it. If you Google around you'll see a fair amount of people complaining about these hops. I'm not even the only one in this thread. I adjusted the water, though I'd have to look it up. They worked great for bittering, but they had a really unpleasant pungent character.

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I like it as a bittering and accent hop for EIPAs, porters and stouts. I used it as a VERY light late addition in a mild and that worked as well.

I don't think that it would work well as a showcase hop, but if you've got the itch, might as well scratch it.

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