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FreakinA 09-19-2010 02:48 AM

DFH sucks these days. I head to total wine constantly, the largest DFH seller there is(other then DFH) and they have no beers that homebrewers would ever want to drink? DFH has lost their roots and now produces $4857 dollar beers that arent even good. I did like the saison du buff, but thats probably only because Koch saved Sam from dumping every ingredient that he could think of that isn't supposed to be in beer in the kettle.

Bobby_M 09-19-2010 01:26 PM

Yeah, total rockstars. Vinnie from RR wrote a three paragraph reply to a question I had within 15 minutes of me sending it. What a total douche.

beerjunky828 09-19-2010 04:01 PM

Yeah this guy's "elaborate" methodology of finding the most overrated breweries is puny. He offers no valid information other than that he doesn't like it. Who gives a $*#* about this guy that we here at HBT have to comment? If you like their beer then support them and if not then make your own or find another brewery to support. But don't bash these guys and gals for creating a product that seems to be popular with the general consensus.

remilard 09-19-2010 04:19 PM

He seems to be listing breweries that have been heavily hyped for a number of years. Basically hating success. I remember people turning on Sierra Nevada and then Rogue etc. In a few years The Bruery will be the new whipping boy.

Bob 09-19-2010 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrookeiv (Post 2280454)
Bloggers like this give bloggers a bad name, though. I guess I just get tired of this elitist mentality.

Okay, I have to ask: What, precisely, is 'this elitist mentality'?

Moving on.

Frankly, I rather agree that many microbreweries are enjoying popularity due to trends, and have garnered a somewhat undeserved reputation based on dubious street cred. And you know what?

It's all our fault.*

Rather than enjoy a solidly-crafted, medium-strength beer and be comfortable with that, we poo-poo anything that isn't a 10%ABV, 179 IBU flavor-bomb that Chuck Norrises your tonsils into catalepsy. I regularly see slams on American Lager here on HBT which make me froth at the mouth.** And you know something? That just points to how unenlightened we are as aficionados. If it's not "bigger faster louder MORE", beer enthusiasts are the worst kind of jaded "meh" hipster.

And that's just wrong.

Quote:

Today's "micro"- breweries are like rock stars, and we are like teenage girls idolizing the breweries.
That's exactly true. Look, I've gotten drunk with Sam Calagione after he's had to duck phanbois all day at a beer festival. It's nuts!

The brewery I respect has a stable core of rock-solid, tasty, not-in-left-field beers I can sit and drink for hours. The brewery I respect neither rides the coattails of a few ultra-niche beers nor makes their entire stable ultra-niche weirdness.

As I often say on this board, any monkey can brew IIPA, because overwhelming flavors hide a multitude of flaws. It takes a brewer of real skill and experience to brew Budweiser.

That's my take, anyhow. Maybe I'll just stick with Hendrick's and tonic...

Bob

* As beer enthusiasts, I mean.
** When you figure out how to be a better brewmaster than the ones at BMC breweries, you let me know.

pjk49202 09-19-2010 04:50 PM

This article is pointless. It's one man's opinion about a handfull of breweries. Personally, I really like Russian River's beers, including Pliny. I've had everyone of the those beers and they are all good.

pjk49202 09-19-2010 04:56 PM

Quote:

Today's "micro"- breweries are like rock stars, and we are like teenage girls idolizing the breweries
That is soo true! I worked the Lost Abbey booth at GABF Friday night and I saw this first hand. People were ****ing yelling and trying to Tomme's attention all night. It was really annoying to have people ask me, to ask Tomme something, I'm not his ****ing personal assistant!

joebagodonuts 09-19-2010 05:01 PM

whatever
 
My first thought when reading that list was that this guy is just trolling. He's saying obviously stupid things with the purpose of getting people fired up.
It's a great way to get a lot of traffic.
But I am really surprised to read how many people agree with the list - so i guess I'm wrong.
The real kicker about a list like this is that taste is subjective. some people like Budweiser, some like Wyncoop IIPA. The person that likes the IIPA would say that Budweiser is horrible - yet the person that likes Budweiser would say that the IIPA tastes like ****.
You might not like something that a brewery creates - so in your mind it's overrated. A Budweiser drinker would think that Stone IPA, Lagunitas Maximus, Pliney, Chimay, and Sierra Nevada all suck. He would think that they are the worst tasting beers on earth.
I actually think that dogfish Head is underrated. I wonder what brewery he's visiting at the beer fest? Budweiser, Coors, and Miller probably.

remilard 09-19-2010 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 2285977)
That's exactly true. Look, I've gotten drunk with Sam Calagione after he's had to duck phanbois all day at a beer festival. It's nuts!

double lolz for the name dropper accusing others of being fanboys.

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The brewery I respect has a stable core of rock-solid, tasty, not-in-left-field beers I can sit and drink for hours. The brewery I respect neither rides the coattails of a few ultra-niche beers nor makes their entire stable ultra-niche weirdness.
Let's take Russian River. They make a great pale ale, porter, a few IPAs, a belgian golden ale etc. They literally can't be riding the double IPA niche since, well, Vinnie created it. So they seem to meet your criteria.

Goose Island makes outstanding english beers and hit lots of other under-appreciated styles. I mean I guess with all those BCS beers they are riding the coattails of, who was it that made the first bourbon barrel aged beer? Oh yeah, that was Goose Island.

joebagodonuts 09-19-2010 05:11 PM

Huh?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakinA (Post 2285310)
DFH sucks these days. I head to total wine constantly, the largest DFH seller there is(other then DFH) and they have no beers that homebrewers would ever want to drink? DFH has lost their roots and now produces $4857 dollar beers that arent even good. I did like the saison du buff, but thats probably only because Koch saved Sam from dumping every ingredient that he could think of that isn't supposed to be in beer in the kettle.

?????
90 minute IPA
Burton Baton
World Wide Stout
I could go on, but I don't have to.
None of these cost $4857 and home brewers drink them all of the time.

Perhaps extreme hyperbole?


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