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10-22-2012, 05:36 PM
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#111
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Originally Posted by AMonkey
This is me. After one glass, I am like why the f do people drink wine? After two glasses, I am like eh, not bad. After one bottle, I am like this is some good sh*t, lets open another one!
My wife usually drinks red, so I get the bottle to myself, and it is never good after its been in the fridge open so I figure I better finish it off.
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You realize that White Zinfandel is the budweiser of wine.
Perhaps if you drank some "real wine" you would enjoy it.
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10-22-2012, 05:41 PM
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#112
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Please surrender your brewing card and exit out that door. If you have beer fermenting or cellaring, that too must be surrendered to the community.
In all seriousness, I would suggest trying a Terrapin Wake 'N Bake if you can get your hands on one. It's probably the best example of a big coffee stout that I've found. If the ABV wasn't so high, I could probably take care of 3 or 4 of 'em in a single session.
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New Yorkers think they’re so jaded that it’s impossible to shock them. They think they’ve seen and heard it all, and that may be mostly true. But I can tell you from experience that, at 2am in Midtown, pretty much every person on the street will stop and gawk when they see a guy holding hands with one midget, and another midget on his shoulders yelling out: “WHO RUN BARTERTOWN? I RUN BARTERTOWN!”
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10-22-2012, 05:49 PM
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#113
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Brewing Thespian
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Let me preface this statement with the fact that I love me some stouts and porters.
But I've always thought the black malt in porters lent more of a burnt flavor than the roast malt does in stouts. If you're getting a burnt flavor in stouts, 1) you might just not have a pallette that appreciates stouts, in which case you pallette's wrong and you should be ashamed, or 2) you've tried some lousy-assed stouts.
I'm hoping for 2).
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10-22-2012, 06:25 PM
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#114
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Originally Posted by Xpertskir
You realize that White Zinfandel is the budweiser of wine.
Perhaps if you drank some "real wine" you would enjoy it.
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Hmm, can you get "real wine" for $3 a bottle?
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10-22-2012, 06:26 PM
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#115
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Originally Posted by AMonkey
Hmm, can you get "real wine" for $3 a bottle?
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Sure. Boone's Farm and Wild Irish Rose are typically around that price point and it's technically real wine.
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New Yorkers think they’re so jaded that it’s impossible to shock them. They think they’ve seen and heard it all, and that may be mostly true. But I can tell you from experience that, at 2am in Midtown, pretty much every person on the street will stop and gawk when they see a guy holding hands with one midget, and another midget on his shoulders yelling out: “WHO RUN BARTERTOWN? I RUN BARTERTOWN!”
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10-22-2012, 08:02 PM
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#116
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Originally Posted by Whattawort
Sure. Boone's Farm and Wild Irish Rose are typically around that price point and it's technically real wine.
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Fail.
If you have to qualify it with "technically," it ain't real. 
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10-23-2012, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stratslinger
Let me preface this statement with the fact that I love me some stouts and porters.
But I've always thought the black malt in porters lent more of a burnt flavor than the roast malt does in stouts. If you're getting a burnt flavor in stouts, 1) you might just not have a pallette that appreciates stouts, in which case you pallette's wrong and you should be ashamed, or 2) you've tried some lousy-assed stouts.
I'm hoping for 2).
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(1) is perfect, probably opening a big can if worms, but I'm interested in responses. Scientifically speaking, it is possible that someone could find it impossible to like ANY dark porter or stout. I believe the term is "super taster" but this makes someone ultra sensitive to flavor and often find those flavors overwhelming. Of course, I would imagine these people also find "light" beers with lots of hop flavor over powering as well.
Not entirely in line with the original question, but something to consider.
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10-23-2012, 01:10 PM
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If you don't like stouts, it's just because you haven't found the right stout.
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10-23-2012, 02:59 PM
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I find it surprising that there's such a perception of snobbery within HBT. I don't know who said it, but I think I saw it here: "a beer geek is someone who cares about what they're drinking; a beer snob is someone who cares about what you're drinking."
On the other hand, I'm also surprised that anyone here can say they hate a style. "Can't appreciate" seems like a better descriptor. I can't appreciate a good dunkelweizen because the only one I've had wasn't great and wasn't to style (Newport Storm). On the other hand, I just learned to appreciate good sour beers by trying some 5-6 great examples.
The problem with hating a style of beer is the same problem people who "don't like dark beer" have. They have preconceived notions about what they'll get with a dark beer.
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10-23-2012, 03:40 PM
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#120
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Originally Posted by malweth
I find it surprising that there's such a perception of snobbery within HBT. I don't know who said it, but I think I saw it here: "a beer geek is someone who cares about what they're drinking; a beer snob is someone who cares about what you're drinking."
On the other hand, I'm also surprised that anyone here can say they hate a style.
The problem with hating a style of beer is the same problem people who "don't like dark beer" have. They have preconceived notions about what they'll get with a dark beer.
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I can categorically affirm that I hate pumpkin beers. I've tried a bunch of them, just can't drink them. Somebody mentioned Wake and Bake, that's another beer I just don't get.
The problem with hating dark beers is that there are so many styles that are dark but unrelated to each other. Dunkel is basically a dark colored helles, there is very little , if any, roasted malt taste to it. Served in an opaque glass or to a blindfolded person I bet few people would ever guess it's a dark beer. Comparing dunkel to stout is like comparing Saison Dupont to Bud Light because they're about the same color.
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