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Old 02-14-2012, 06:55 AM   #21
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Scary. Big brother government.

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Old 02-14-2012, 07:08 AM   #22
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HOLD ON EVERYONE.......
Where did the info about only 2 meeting and needing to fill out form come from? I just read the house and senate bills and nothing is mentioned about meeting restrictions and filling out forms. They only talk about how homebrewers are exempt from all regulations/tax as long as they don't sell and stay under 200gal.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/proposals/sb395
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/proposals/ab521

Also this other thread is supporting the law. Nowhere are any stupid restrictions mentioned.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/atte...rewers-292578/

I think there is some bad info with a political bend going around this thread.

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Old 02-14-2012, 12:06 PM   #23
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JonGrafto = Fitz is the author!!!!

This is an amendment to the proposed bill - I have printed the actual document (I have friends on the inside -)

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Old 02-14-2012, 12:24 PM   #24
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This is a significant development if it is true. I have to say, your political overtones make it very difficult to believe what you are saying.

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Old 02-14-2012, 01:34 PM   #25
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Agreed this one is scary, but again right now now competition and events are illegal. Better to have to fill out a form then have no event at all. Grinder12000 call your representative and ask this clause to be removed.
yeah, competitions have been shown as illegal....

yet the state fair comp went on as normal this year.....
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Old 02-14-2012, 01:58 PM   #26
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From what I read, it seemed like the WI beer distributors were driving the movement to preserve WI restrictions on homebrewing. Let's keep in mind that beer distributors have a special legal status, with our 3-tier system which is mandated by law and gives some enviable advantages in the market (i.e. territorial exclusivity). As a result of this special legal status, they have an interest in defending their advantaged position and the cash to defend it with. So, they paint unregulated alcohol as dangerous, and position themselves as the group that holds the line against underage drinking and other alcohol-related-issues...whether they are or not is up for debate.

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Old 02-14-2012, 02:23 PM   #27
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I believe that the "changes" mentioned in this thread is wording the WTL and opposition would LIKE to see changed/added. Sen Ellis has already stated previously if the wording was changed they would loose sponsors and gain MORE opposition. To me this sounds like they are trying to push this through "as is".

I am not going to get worked up until I get an update from my people in Madison who are working on this.

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JonGrafto = Fitz is the author!!!!

This is an amendment to the proposed bill - I have printed the actual document (I have friends on the inside -)

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Grinder - I am not seeing anything where it show Fitzgerald is the author.

Senate Bill 395 -
January 20, 2012 - Introduced by Senators Ellis, Lazich, Harsdorf, Wanggaard, Kedzie and Grothman, cosponsored by Representatives Kaufert, Kooyenga, Brooks, Pasch, Kestell, Wynn, Thiesfeldt, Pocan, Pridemore, Spanbauer, C. Taylor, Van Roy, Honadel and Bernard Schaber. Referred to Committee on Energy, Biotechnology, and Consumer Protection.

Assembly Bill 521
February 2, 2012 - Introduced by Representatives Kaufert, Kooyenga, Brooks, Pasch, Kestell, Wynn, Thiesfeldt, Pocan, Pridemore, Spanbauer, C. Taylor, Van Roy, Honadel, Bernard Schaber and Litjens, cosponsored by Senators Ellis, Lazich, Harsdorf, Wanggaard, Kedzie and Grothman. Referred to Committee on Homeland Security and State Affairs.
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he's saying fitzgerald is the author of the amendment.

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he's saying fitzgerald is the author of the amendment.
An amendment that he says he has secretly because he has "inside" connections. Based on his other comments, he has a definitive political slant against Fitzgerald.

SB395 is now on the calendar for Today, Tuesday Feb 14th. Let's see what actually happens.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/201...e/20120213/_57

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