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Grinder12000 02-13-2012 11:58 PM

Fitz's addendum. Pathetic.

You must file for a permit to brew at home

They will limit homebrew events to licensed establishments to 2 times per year, that includes meetings, and no contest prizes for competitions.

The amount of home brew will be limited to 100 gallons per year.


The department shall promulgate rules and forms necessary to protect the public health and safety as it relates to homemade wine and fermented malt beverages and home maker’s events including the development of a form that can be used to collect data in connection with any homemade wine or fermented malt beverages available at a home maker’s event including a person’s name and contact information, date(s) of manufacturing, amount provided at the home maker’s event and a certification that the person has not manufactured more than 100 gallons during a calendar year.

CoalCreekBeer 02-14-2012 12:04 AM

I don't see myself moving to Wisconsin now.

(never did before, but now I have an excuse)

I hope that this does not pass, what a bunch of crap.

pineyguy 02-14-2012 12:10 AM

Wisconsin must be a crappy state to live in. I own an old military Jeep truck (M715) and the sites I go on concerning that always seem to have threads about Wisconisin gov't tryin to limit military vehicle ownership and whatnot. Now homebrewing too? The must have a strong anti-hobby lobby. Less fun, more cheese!

jmprdood 02-14-2012 12:15 AM

Dude:

I think you got it backwrds. From All About Beer Magazine, from 3 days ago. Sounds like big beer is trying to muddy the waters, IMHO.

"The bill was introduced after the state’s Department of Revenue determined in 2011 that current law prohibits brewers from transporting a homemade beverage outside their residences. It suddenly made the normal practice of local brew tasting events and competitions illegal, despite taking place for several years.

The bill would allow brewers to transport their homemade beer and wine, and allow them to make it outside their home. It would also exempt them from permit requirements and taxes. They’re limited in how much they can brew every year, which would be 100 gallons for one person in a household or 200 gallons for two people in a household. As with current law, brewers cannot sell any beverage they make.

But representatives with the Wisconsin Beer Distributors Association and the Wisconsin Wine and Spirit Institute argued against the bill,
Rep. Dean Kaufert, R-Neenah, who helped introduce the bill, said the legislation is common sense and not aimed at illegal business activity.

“I was a little surprised that all of a sudden all these groups were having a problem with it,” he said. “The intent of this is for the little guy to share some beer among friends. I sense the big guys are trying to blow it out of proportion and create scenarios to try to get people riled up. Suddenly, it’s become David vs. Goliath.”

tim2akat2 02-14-2012 12:20 AM

You know this cam up a few years ago pushed by the democrats. They actually wanted you to keep a log of how much and tax it. I can see b microbreweries pushing the event thing. Who knows why this is being pushed and by who on the outside but most likely some religious group. Tim

fifelee 02-14-2012 12:40 AM

Lets get the facts straight. The is no new law to restrict homebrewing. For some reason the Wisconsin Department of Revenue reinterpreted existing law making homebrew transportation and competitions illegal. It is Republican State Sen. Michael Ellis who has introduced a bill to put things back the way they were before and protect hombrewing in Wisconsin.

http://allaboutbeer.com/daily-pint/whats-brewing/2012/02/wisconsin-homebrew-laws-heat-up/

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20120131/GPG0101/302010016/Senate-committee-could-take-up-Wisconsin-homebrew-bill-today

Grinder12000 02-14-2012 01:01 AM

No no - There is more they are sneaking in now as - I can't upload the attachment but. This goes INTO your Bill

Homemade Wine and Beer Substitute Amendment

Objectives:

• Create a new statute regulating homemade wine and fermented malt beverages.

• Continue to require homemade wine and fermented malt beverages to be manufactured at a home, farm or place of residence with an exception if the beverages are made in an instructional setting and incidental to an educational purpose.

• Subject homemade wine and fermented malt beverages to an annual limit of no more than 100 gallons person, per calendar year with a 200 gallon maximum, per household.

• Permit homemade wine and fermented malt beverages to be transported to and consumed at other homes, farms or places of residence if the wine or fermented malt beverages are to be consumed by the owner of the home, his or her family and guests.

• Permit homemade wine or fermented malt beverages to be transported to and consumed at home maker’s events held on licensed premises.

• Permit home maker’s events to be held at “Class B” (homemade wine) or Class “B” (fermented malt beverages) licensed premises provided that no more than two home maker’s event per calendar year can be held per licensed premise.

• Permit storage of homemade wine or fermented malt beverages on licensed premises for no more than 24 hours before or after a home maker’s event.

• Require that any individual providing wine or fermented malt beverages for a home maker’s event complete and then file a form that is developed by the Department of Revenue and includes information that the Department believes is necessary to address any concerns on public health and safety, including the individual’s name, contact information, dates of production, amount provided to the home maker’s event and a certification that the individual has not produced more than 100 gallons during that calendar year.

• Make clear that homemade wine or fermented malt beverages may not be made for a commercial purpose including that:

• the person who makes the wine or fermented malt beverages may not receive any compensation;

• compensation includes cash and noncash prize to any individual who makes homemade wine or fermented malt beverages and prohibit anything of value from being provided to these individuals for the use of their homemade wine or fermented malt beverages; and,

• homemade wine or fermented malt beverages may not be sold or offered for sale but a licensed retailer may charge an admission fee to attend a home maker’s event.

125.20 of the statutes is created to read:

125.20 Homemade wine or fermented malt beverages.

(1) DEFINITIONS. In this section:

(a) “Homemade” with respect to making of wine and fermented malt beverages, means wine and fermented malt beverages made by a person’s own efforts, not for a commercial purpose and by any person at his or her home, farm or other place of residence.

(b) “Home maker’s event” means an exhibition, demonstration, judging, tasting, or sampling or as part of a contest or competition where homemade wine or fermented malt beverages are made available for consumption.

(2) AUTHORIZED ACTIVITIES OF PERSONS MANUFACTURING HOMEMADE WINE AND FERMENTED MALT BEVERAGES.

(a) A person of legal drinking age may manufacture up to 100 gallons of homemade wine or fermented malt beverages in a calendar year provided that no more than 200 gallons of homemade wine and fermented malt beverages may be manufactured per household, per calendar year.

(b) Homemade wine and fermented malt beverages may be consumed by the person who made it or his or her family and guests.

(c) Homemade wine and fermented malt beverages may be transported to and consumed at home maker’s events.

(3) HOME MAKER’S EVENTS.

(a) All home maker’s events must be held on a licensed or permitted premise.

(b) A Class “B” or “Class B” licensee, brewer, brewpub or winery under this chapter, may conduct, sponsor, or host on its licensed or permitted premises, a home maker’s event provided that no more than two home maker’s events in a calendar year may held at a single premise.

(c) A licensee or permittee may allow for the homemade wine or fermented malt beverages to be stored on the premises but for no more than 24 hours before and after such an event and only if the homemade wine or fermented malt beverages are clearly identified and kept separate from any other alcohol beverages owned by the licensee or permittee.

(d) Prior to participating in a home maker’s event, any person providing homemade wine or fermented malt beverages must complete and file a form developed by the department, including a certification that the person has abided by the annual gallonage limits in sub par (2)(a).

(e) A licensee or permittee may charge an admission fee for a home maker’s event but may not share any of the proceeds with any person providing the home made wine or fermented malt beverages for the event.

(4) WINE OR FERMENTED MALT BEVERAGES MADE FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES.

Notwithstanding sub par (1)(a), the manufacture of wine or fermented malt beverages for educational purposes of teaching individuals how to make homemade wine or fermented malt beverages may occur in a location conducive to instruction provided that attendance is limited to those receiving instruction and the wine or fermented malt beverages are not sold or offered for sale.

(5) PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES.

(a) Homemade wine or fermented malt beverages may not be sold or offered for sale.

(b) A person who makes homemade wine or fermented malt beverages shall not be compensated in any manner for the use or consumption of his or her homemade wine or fermented malt beverages.

(c) At a home maker’s event, no prizes or anything of value may be awarded or otherwise provided to a person who is a maker of homemade wine or fermented malt beverages.

(6) DEPARTMENT OVERSIGHT.

The department shall promulgate rules and forms necessary to protect the public health and safety as it relates to homemade wine and fermented malt beverages and home maker’s events including the development of a form that can be used to collect data in connection with any homemade wine or fermented malt beverages available at a home maker’s event including a person’s name and contact information, date(s) of manufacturing, amount provided at the home maker’s event and a certification that the person has not manufactured more than 100 gallons during a calendar year.

motobrewer 02-14-2012 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinder12000 (Post 3782549)
ē Require that any individual providing wine or fermented malt beverages for a home makerís event complete and then file a form that is developed by the Department of Revenue and includes information that the Department believes is necessary to address any concerns on public health and safety, including the individualís name, contact information, dates of production, amount provided to the home makerís event and a certification that the individual has not produced more than 100 gallons during that calendar year.

yikes.

fifelee 02-14-2012 01:14 AM

I would like all those rules be even more broad, but the fact remains that transportation and competitions are illegal right now. At least this law allows it again.

There is no permit need. They mean the law permits or allows home brewing.

The 100gal per person or 200 per house hold is standard.

Events only twice per year sucks, but right now it is zero.

Homebrew clubs are testifying in favor. I would think you would support this to.

fifelee 02-14-2012 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motobrewer (Post 3782570)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grinder12000 (Post 3782549)
• Require that any individual providing wine or fermented malt beverages for a home maker’s event complete and then file a form that is developed by the Department of Revenue and includes information that the Department believes is necessary to address any concerns on public health and safety, including the individual’s name, contact information, dates of production, amount provided to the home maker’s event and a certification that the individual has not produced more than 100 gallons during that calendar year.

yikes.

Agreed this one is scary, but again right now now competition and events are illegal. Better to have to fill out a form then have no event at all. Grinder12000 call your representative and ask this clause to be removed.


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