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Old 11-01-2011, 08:30 PM   #21
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if i move the brew set up 10' from my garage, then it would be set up in the fire lane, where he was parking anyways which is illegal.

This is the code section referenced in the letter:
CFC2011 - 308.1.1 Where prohibited. A person shall not take or utilize an open flame or light in a structure, vessel, boat or other place where highly flammable, combustible or explosive material is utilized or stored. Lighting appliances shall be well-secured in a glass globe and wire mesh cage or a similar approved device.

[California Code of Regulations, Title 19, Division 1, §3.25(a) and (b)] Open Flame Devices.

(a) Open flame devices shall be prohibited in every Group A, E, I, R-2.1, R-3.1 and R-4 occupancy.


Pretty sure my building is an R-2 so the above doesn't apply.

but i found this section right after, this is what im concerned about the the FM comese out.

CFC 2011 - 308.1.4 Open-flame cooking devices. Charcoal burners and other open-flame cooking devices shall not be operated on combustible balconies or within 10 feet (3048 mm) of combustible construction.
Exceptions:
1. One- and two-family dwellings.
2. Where buildings, balconies and decks are protected by an automatic sprinkler system.
3. LP-gas cooking devices having LP-gas container with a water capacity not greater than 21/2 pounds [nominal 1 pound (0.454 kg) LP-gas capacity].



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The fire code refers to open flame near a comercial building or a Residential occupancy with 3 or more living units (not bedrooms). NFPA are standars or recomendations and Fire Code is what is adopted and enforced. Someone stated that fire codes are not enforeced and they are wrong. Fire Codes are inforeced by the Authority Having Jursidiction (law enforcement, Fire Department, County officails) it all depends on who has adopted the code. The ONLY thing to do is to call the AHJ (try the fire department) and get the correct information. Beyond that your neighbor is a jerk and this topic has no further discussion till you get clarification from the AHJ.



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Old 11-01-2011, 08:32 PM   #23
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Call the Fire Marshal, Redondo Beach belongs to a guy named Rappaport. (310) 318-0663, option 7. If he's anything like the Fire Marshals I deal with at work, he's got about a million other things to worry about and will probably tell you EXACTLY what you need to do to to avoid a hassle.
haha thats the number ive been calling - no answer
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Subscribed. I just want to see how this plays out. Good luck Bean.

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Define "cooking device" - there are recipe books on how to cook off the heat of your engine block while driving. Manifold Destiny so technically it's illegal to use your car in the driveway/garage.

Best bet, imo, it to call the local FD and find out exactly how they view your brew set up.

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Brewing beer with a turkey fryer is way different than frying a turkey in peanut oil.

When wort boils over, it makes a mess, and can extinguish the flame.

Throw a frozen turkey in hot oil and watch the fireworks and then the garage burn down.

I think your neighbor is making a mountain out of a molehill since you are not boiling anything combustible. His apartment is probably full of code violations if he's a hoarder. He's a fireman's worst nightmare if his place goes up.

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Try hitting option ZERO - it wont be the FM, but someone WILL answer the phone. Too many people call local FD in emergencies for it to be an unmanned number. Let me know if that works out better for you

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Can't we all just get along?

Sorry I couldnt resist. I can't stand stupid neighbors(it's why I have none)

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The fire code refers to open flame near a comercial building or a Residential occupancy with 3 or more living units (not bedrooms). NFPA are standars or recomendations and Fire Code is what is adopted and enforced. Someone stated that fire codes are not enforeced and they are wrong. Fire Codes are inforeced by the Authority Having Jursidiction (law enforcement, Fire Department, County officails) it all depends on who has adopted the code. The ONLY thing to do is to call the AHJ (try the fire department) and get the correct information. Beyond that your neighbor is a jerk and this topic has no further discussion till you get clarification from the AHJ.
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Brewing beer with a turkey fryer is way different than frying a turkey in peanut oil.

When wort boils over, it makes a mess, and can extinguish the flame.

Throw a frozen turkey in hot oil and watch the fireworks and then the garage burn down.

I think your neighbor is making a mountain out of a molehill since you are not boiling anything combustible. His apartment is probably full of code violations if he's a hoarder. He's a fireman's worst nightmare if his place goes up.
yeah true but what this code is preventing is a charcoal fire or a larger propane tank, which could blow up and do lots of damage, hence the 1 lb tank exception, those are the small green coleman fuel.

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Try hitting option ZERO - it wont be the FM, but someone WILL answer the phone. Too many people call local FD in emergencies for it to be an unmanned number. Let me know if that works out better for you
tried that too, maybee they are out fighting a fire today.


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