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Old 02-28-2011, 12:15 AM   #21
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I was on the way to the grocery tonight and the wife called and sounded worried, and broke it to me that my 2yr old had pulled the airlock off a fermenter.. I told her to just stick it on the table and I'll fix it when I get home.. I can't blame him for messing with it though, I used to stare at the damn things for hours . - Also, I only use water in my airlocks..never had a problem.



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Old 02-28-2011, 04:06 AM   #22
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RTKBA - he was referring to vodka in the airlock.
I understand that. Do you and the others that posted on here saying it is not a big deal realize that it only takes a few ounces of alcohol to cause alcohol poisoning in a child that age? I did a quick google search and found a case of a 6 month baby who died with a BAC of .205. The medical examiner said that it was caused by the baby consuming 1-1.5 ounces of 80 proof spirits. The mother is now in prison.

I just do not understand how hard it is to keep the fermenter in a room the child does not have access to.


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Old 02-28-2011, 04:14 AM   #23
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The amount of vodka in an airlock that would spill out is negligible.. do you guys who are bashing the OP have kids? Othe than locking them in the closet there is NO WAY to keep em out of everything all the time. All you can do is the best you can do .. My grandson pulled the airlock off of my blond ale and tossed a cheezit into the fermenting beer. It was no found for a few hours. ( we replaced the airlock just didn't notice the cheezit) ber was fine after removing the offending cracker... It was dubbed "cheddar blond".

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Old 02-28-2011, 04:22 AM   #24
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Yes I have a small child at home. He has zero access to my beer and my firearms. Period. It's called responsibility. There is no excuse.

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I understand that. Do you and the others that posted on here saying it is not a big deal realize that it only takes a few ounces of alcohol to cause alcohol poisoning in a child that age? I did a quick google search and found a case of a 6 month baby who died with a BAC of .205. The medical examiner said that it was caused by the baby consuming 1-1.5 ounces of 80 proof spirits. The mother is now in prison.

I just do not understand how hard it is to keep the fermenter in a room the child does not have access to.
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Yes I have a small child at home. He has zero access to my beer and my firearms. Period. It's called responsibility. There is no excuse.

No, we aren't being judgmental at all. A one year old doing a shot and a half of 80 proof vodka? I doubt it. He would freak out and start crying when the first drop hit his tongue. Not to mention I doubt he's using that good of vodka for the airlock. I don't. I found it to be an amusing story, as I assumed that he was a reasonable and responsible parent and I prefer to read the story as it was intended instead of jumping immediately to conclusions about how terrible he must be at child rearing.

I'm not sorry for the rant. Should I take the loaded 9mm out of the diaper bag?
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Old 02-28-2011, 04:48 AM   #26
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Yes I have a small child at home. He has zero access to my beer and my firearms. Period. It's called responsibility. There is no excuse.
exactly, while a child will get into everything they have access to it is the parents responsibility to ensure they do not have access to potentially harmful items.

ohiosteve, you say the amount is negligible meaning it is not enough to worry about. While i have never measured how much goes into an air lock I am sure it is at least 1.5 ounces which I have already explained is enough to cause a fatal BAC of 0.205 in a six month old. According to the CDC there is an average 5 pound difference between a 6 month old and 12 month old. therefore the effects of alcohol would be almost identical.

I am not saying that it would definitely result in death, but there is a chance and at the very least the child will become intoxicated. If you believe that a child especially a one year old should be exposed to alcohol and it is not a big deal then you are obviously not psychologically mature enough to be responsible for the well being of a child.

There is no excuse for a child having access to even the smallest amounts of alcohol.
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I agree. A good rule of thumb is one ounce of beer per year of age.

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A one year old doing a shot and a half of 80 proof vodka? I doubt it.

I'm not sorry for the rant. Should I take the loaded 9mm out of the diaper bag?
I am not saying it is likely but it is possible. It is funny you bring up firearms. As I am sure many people can tell by my name (Right To Keep and bear Arms) I have numerous firearms in my home and guess what no child has access to them. If I posted saying that my one year old was playing with my holstered handgun i would be crucified on here. The chances of a child figuring out how to remove the gun from a retention holster (some adults cant figure it out) removing the safety then firing the weapon is slim, but that is a chance no one should take. It is the same with alcohol there is a chance it could kill a child so why take that chance? It is as simple as placing the bucket in a room or even placing it on a table.
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I agree. A good rule of thumb is one ounce of beer per year of age.
For those of us over 21 years old... Yikes...



Overprotective parents normally have kids that end up being "over experimental" when they get older and hit college. Its unanimous that all my friends with overprotective parents ended up over the top drunks or drug addicts...

Moderation is key. Kids will be kids. Regulate actions dont coddle.
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OK...I just measured the absolute maximum volume that an S-shaped airlock could hold without pulling a siphon on the downside....it barely half-filled a shot glass. So for the record, a 1 year old couldn't reach the theoretical 1.5 oz that RTKBA is worried about.

Chill, people...it's funny...the toddler is fascinated by the bubbling airlock...he rubbed his hands in the vodka that spilled...it won't be any worse for him than the first time he finds dog poop at the park...

And FWIW, I can't believe no one has jumped on one of the earlier statements about Star San...definitely safe to ingest in small amounts when mixed to proper sanitizing strength. I use Star San in all my airlocks, and I usually use it to mix up my kids' KoolAid too....jus kidding!!!



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