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IffyG · 11-28-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Revvy

Yes......

And the results, I'm not going to answer, you can skim it yourself. I skimmed it earlier. It took all of 5 minutes. A scroll button is a great thing for skimming forums.

Thanks for being helpful....

Anyways, the only test that I was able to find via pictures wasn't enough to convince me that plastidip would do anything more than contain the largest glass debris. Dropping a carboy into a cardboard box onto slate in the grass is far from a worst case scenario. I'd venture a guess and say a full, plastidipped glass carboy dropped from waist height onto a concrete floor would still explode into glass shards.

**Golddiggie** · 11-28-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IffyG

Thanks for being helpful....

Anyways, the only test that I was able to find via pictures wasn't enough to convince me that plastidip would do anything more than contain the largest glass debris. Dropping a carboy into a cardboard box onto slate in the grass is far from a worst case scenario. I'd venture a guess and say a full, plastidipped glass carboy dropped from waist height onto a concrete floor would still explode into glass shards.

IMO, your best bet would probably be with the spray-on bed-liner material. It's cheap (under $10 for the can I linked to earlier) and should do a good job. The stuff is typically designed to withstand impacts of decent intensity.

You could do a test with a glass bottle (so you don't risk your carboy) and see how it worked. If it seems good, ramp up to the carboy and go at it. I do think that Revvy's earlier suggestion about adding mesh screen is a good one. Especially if you use the metal screening (less risk of it being cut).

I don't use carboys (glass or plastic) to ferment in anymore. Nor do I use buckets. So, I don't have anything to test with here.

What I use to ferment in has more potential to damage what it gets dropped onto than itself.

tinman1 · 11-28-2012, 04:24 PM

I use a cobination of web holders I made myself or the milk crate transport method. They are an inherent danger, but for long term storage, nothin beats glass. Just a note to ponder.... My LHBS had "trade in days" last year that allowed you to swap your good clean non-chipped glass carboys for better bottles. You might ask your LHBS if that is something they would consider...IF using glass has got you worried.

**Golddiggie** · 11-28-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tinman1

I use a cobination of web holders I made myself or the milk crate transport method. They are an inherent danger, but for long term storage, nothin beats glass. Just a note to ponder.... My LHBS had "trade in days" last year that allowed you to swap your good clean non-chipped glass carboys for better bottles. You might ask your LHBS if that is something they would consider...IF using glass has got you worried.

Actually, that myth has been busted already. HDPE is just fine for long term aging (members here have done it for over a year without negative impact).

Personally, stainless beats the snot out of glass (and plastic). NO light can penetrate stainless, where some can penetrate the plastic buckets used.

highgravitybacon · 11-28-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ArcticBear

After the extreme fascination of studying my first few beers as they fermented and buying as many glass carboys as my wallet and fermenting closet could handle... i became a little more practical and switched to plastic buckets.

I have a bunch of glass carboys, but I really like buckets. They just work so well. Easy to use, easy to clean. And since I can't see what's going on, I don't dick with them as much.

**GilaMinumBeer** · 11-28-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AMonkey

I might be wrong, can't find what I read before. But IIRC, PET/PETE only leeches chemicals if they get really hot (like leaving water bottles in your car in the summer) or after very long storage. Since most beer is only in the bucket for 3-4 weeks it is not a long enough time to leech anything significant.

If I remember correctly, there have also been lots of threads about PET/PETE and glass carboys containing lethal amounts of dihydrogen monoxide. It's a wonder any of these things are considered safe for anything.

adamjackson · 11-28-2012, 04:41 PM

Just switch to better bottles. Shipping them to your house is cheaper, they themselves are cheaper, easier to clean and tote around..just all around better.

I've had two carboys break in 6 months and I'm done.

**Revvy** · 11-28-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by adamjackson

Just switch to better bottles. Shipping them to your house is cheaper, they themselves are cheaper, easier to clean and tote around..just all around better.

I've had two carboys break in 6 months and I'm done.

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Originally Posted by highgravitybacon

I have a bunch of glass carboys, but I really like buckets. They just work so well. Easy to use, easy to clean. And since I can't see what's going on, I don't dick with them as much.

Have you guys not read the comments in here about NOT making this a plastic vs glass vs bucket thread? The PREMISE OF THIS THREAD is to share ideas about how one WOULD MAKE A GLASS CARBOY SHATTER PROOF. The MODS have even come in and said to keep conversation to the topic at hand.

From the mods

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Originally Posted by oakbarn

Moderator note: There are plenty of other threads encouraging brewers not to use glass carboys. Please feel free to add to those threads or start a new one on that topic. Lets keep this thread on the OP's topic - using glass carboys safely.

Pappers_

We ALL know about plastic, hell, I prefer it, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE THREAD IS TO COME UP WITH IDEAS TO MAKE GLASS CARBOYS SHATTERPROOF for those who want to have this discussion.

**jcam91** · 11-28-2012, 04:54 PM

How about foam wrapped around and under carboy. Seems to me if it was thick enough a 4 foot drop wouldn't mean buying a new carboy. Also would keep it insulated and light proof. Not permanent either.

**GilaMinumBeer** · 11-28-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Revvy

Have you guys not read the comments in here about NOT making this a plastic vs glass vs bucket thread? The PREMISE OF THIS THREAD is to share ideas about how one WOULD MAKE A GLASS CARBOY SHATTER PROOF. The MODS have even come in and said to keep conversation to the topic at hand.

We ALL know about plastic, hell, I prefer it, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE THREAD IS TO COME UP WITH IDEAS TO MAKE GLASS CARBOYS SHATTERPROOF for those who want to have this discussion.

But Revvy, replacing glass carboys with Better Bottles DOES make the glass carboy shatterproof. I mean, duh!