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Old 03-25-2010, 05:01 PM   #11
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I've seen pliny clones with over 300IBU's. I just brewed a beer that should be around 280 IBU last weekend. all in all this doesn't seem like anything to news worthy.

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Old 03-25-2010, 05:29 PM   #12
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I've seen pliny clones with over 300IBU's. I just brewed a beer that should be around 280 IBU last weekend. all in all this doesn't seem like anything to news worthy.
You've seen Pliny clones that are estimated at 300 IBU by formulae that are not designed to estimate in that range. Those estimates are ridiculous.

IIRC, the sheet Vinnie handed out at NHC said that Pliny measures 97 IBUs.
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Old 03-25-2010, 05:35 PM   #13
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Thanks for the clarifications!

How do they measure IBU after the fact? I don't think I've ever heard how this is done... IS there an objective concentration at which the acids can be quantified?

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Old 03-25-2010, 05:43 PM   #14
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Thanks for the clarifications!

How do they measure IBU after the fact? I don't think I've ever heard how this is done... IS there an objective concentration at which the acids can be quantified?
Gas Chromatigraph, IIRC.

And I believe that the human threshold of bitterness perception stops abruptly at 100 IBU, therabouts.
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Gas Chromatigraph, IIRC.

And I believe that the human threshold of bitterness perception stops abruptly at 100 IBU, therabouts.
Chromatograph.
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whats the point past 150? just seems like a waste. like when people put like 10 packs of sweet and low in their coffee. just overkill

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You've seen Pliny clones that are estimated at 300 IBU by formulae that are not designed to estimate in that range. Those estimates are ridiculous.

IIRC, the sheet Vinnie handed out at NHC said that Pliny measures 97 IBUs.
I've seen them range from the 67IBU up to the 300's
from a quick search "pliney clone recipe" these are on the first page of listings.

Pliney Clone at 243IBU

Pliney Clone 246IBU
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I've seen them range from the 67IBU up to the 300's
from a quick search "pliney clone recipe" these are on the first page of listings.

Pliney Clone at 243IBU

Pliney Clone 246IBU
Good for you. My point is that you have seen Pliny clones that have estimates (bad ones) of IBUs. You have yet to convince me that you have seen a Pliny clone with IBUs measured at any level.
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Good for you. My point is that you have seen Pliny clones that have estimates (bad ones) of IBUs. You have yet to convince me that you have seen a Pliny clone with IBUs measured at any level.

I don't intend to try to convince you of anything, merely stating my observations.

care to post your convincing "sheet" you got? otherwise I'm just as not convinced as you.
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...all in all this doesn't seem like anything to news worthy.
I agree, the fact that the forumla we use to calculate ballpark IBU numbers is kind of mute. This is not a hard record to beat at all, I could go to the home brew shop buy 30 Oz of their bitterest hop and boil away for 2 hours. I got a laugh that this brewer seems to think he has achieved something.
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