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Old 11-11-2006, 10:14 PM   #1
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Anyone have any information, OR have an idea where one could obtain information about being licensed to sell thier homebrew? Can you sell any without a license? I live in IN... just very curious!!!

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Old 11-11-2006, 10:23 PM   #2
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I am also very curious about this. I had a small bar and cigar shop a few years back that wanted to cary my house porter. From what I found out, you will need a alchohol distribution liscence and some other permits that I really can't remember. This is in AZ and I really did not persue it any further.

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From what I understand, it is almost impossible. Here in Illinois, you cannot distribute your own brew. Every beer that is distributed must go through a licensed distributor. Even the brewer at my local brewpub faced this dilemma when he decided to let his beer be sold out of house. He could not simply carry a keg of his brew to other bars. He has to relinquish them to a distributor who delivers them to other establishments.

As for brewing the beer, I would wager that there is a whole array of licenses and inspections that you'd have to pass in order for your beer to be legal.

You should pick up a book called Brewing Up a Business. It is written by the owner/founder of Dogfishhead. He writes, in this book, about growing his business. He started out making and selling his brews on a ten gallon homebrew system!!!

In other words, it can be done. But I'll bet it is really difficult - not something you do "on the side," so to speak.

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In Oregon, you need to be licensed by the OLCB. Get inspections (surprise ones), pay taxes on volume & alcohol content, get every label approved, etc. Figure 3-5 grand to get going. Distribution is very strange in Oregon. There is a guy in Portland that is making a go on a one barrel system: "Going pro is a good way to turn a great hobby into a job."

I'm certain there is a control board of some sort in Indiana.

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Found this info for Maricopa County in Arizona (this might interest you anthrobe):

License Types: Series 03 Domestic Microbrewery License

Non-transferable
On & off-sale retail privileges
Note: Terms in BOLD CAPITALS are defined in the glossary.

PURPOSE:

Allows the licensee of a microbrewery to manufacture or produce at least ten thousand (10,000) gallons, but less than three hundred ten thousand (310,000) gallons of beer annually.

ADDITIONAL RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES:

May sell beer produced or manufactured on the premises for consumption on or off the premises, and may make sales and deliveries of beer to persons licensed to sell beer.

May serve beer produced or manufactured on the premises for the purpose of sampling.

Must report annually at the end of each fiscal year the amount of beer manufactured. If the total amount of beer manufactured exceeds the amount permitted by a Series 03 license, the licensee shall apply for and receive a Series 01 license (In-state Producer).

Any CONTROLLING PERSON can have an interest in only one (1) microbrewery and at only one (1) site.

On any original applications, new managers and/or the person responsible for the day-to-day operations must attend a basic and management training class.

A PREGNANCY WARNING SIGN for pregnant women consuming spirituous liquor must be posted within twenty (20) feet of the cash register or behind the bar.

A log must be kept by the licensee of all persons employed at the premises including each employee's name, date and place of birth, address and responsibilities.

AVERAGE APPROVAL TIME: Sixty-five (65) to one-hundred five (105) days.

PERIOD OF ISSUANCE: One (1) year with option to renew.

FEES: Non-refundable application fee: $100.00
Fingerprint fee per card: Contact Department
Interim Permit fee: $100.00

Upon approval:
Final fees (full year): $600.00
Final fees (half year): $450.00
Annual renewal fee (includes SURCHARGE): $370.00

ARIZONA STATUTES AND REGULATIONS:

ARS 4-201, 4-202, 4-203, 4-205.04, 4-209(B)(3), 4-209(D)(3), 4-243, 4-261; Rule R19-1-214, R19-1-250, R19-1-254.

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IOW, another fine example of your bastard sh*tbag government, hard at work, making sure two consenting adults can't trade wares as they see fit.

But, yeah, "land of the free" and all that crap. Right. "Free".

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Not that I'm interested, but if I were, I think I'd have to get another primary or two, huh?

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Mmmmm 10,000 gallons of beer on the wall, 10,000 gallons beer... drink one down & pass it around, 9,999 gallons of beer

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I'll sell you this pint glass for $6, and it comes with a FREE bottle of homebrew!

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Found this info for Maricopa County in Arizona (this might interest you anthrobe):

License Types: Series 03 Domestic Microbrewery License

Non-transferable
On & off-sale retail privileges
Note: Terms in BOLD CAPITALS are defined in the glossary.

PURPOSE:

Allows the licensee of a microbrewery to manufacture or produce at least ten thousand (10,000) gallons, but less than three hundred ten thousand (310,000) gallons of beer annually.

ADDITIONAL RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES:

May sell beer produced or manufactured on the premises for consumption on or off the premises, and may make sales and deliveries of beer to persons licensed to sell beer.

May serve beer produced or manufactured on the premises for the purpose of sampling.

Must report annually at the end of each fiscal year the amount of beer manufactured. If the total amount of beer manufactured exceeds the amount permitted by a Series 03 license, the licensee shall apply for and receive a Series 01 license (In-state Producer).

Any CONTROLLING PERSON can have an interest in only one (1) microbrewery and at only one (1) site.

On any original applications, new managers and/or the person responsible for the day-to-day operations must attend a basic and management training class.

A PREGNANCY WARNING SIGN for pregnant women consuming spirituous liquor must be posted within twenty (20) feet of the cash register or behind the bar.

A log must be kept by the licensee of all persons employed at the premises including each employee's name, date and place of birth, address and responsibilities.

AVERAGE APPROVAL TIME: Sixty-five (65) to one-hundred five (105) days.

PERIOD OF ISSUANCE: One (1) year with option to renew.

FEES: Non-refundable application fee: $100.00
Fingerprint fee per card: Contact Department
Interim Permit fee: $100.00

Upon approval:
Final fees (full year): $600.00
Final fees (half year): $450.00
Annual renewal fee (includes SURCHARGE): $370.00

ARIZONA STATUTES AND REGULATIONS:

ARS 4-201, 4-202, 4-203, 4-205.04, 4-209(B)(3), 4-209(D)(3), 4-243, 4-261; Rule R19-1-214, R19-1-250, R19-1-254.
Let's not forget that you probably will also have to deal with State Government rules, and maybe pay THEM as well as all the money you have forked over to the couty.

Why all this regulation? Bottom line: money. Uncle Sam, the state and all the local entities that regulate alcohol sales all want their share of the tax dollars generated by the sale.
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