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Old 04-02-2013, 04:45 PM   #21
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Just sell him some "pretty" bottles. They just happen to not be empty yet.

Or, brew it, send it home with him and let him pitch the yeast.

In California, it is illegal, but I've been pulled over a few times with kegs of homebrew in the car, never had a problem.

It usually goes like this;
Cop "what's in that thing"
Me "beer I made"
Cop " how do you do that"
Me " magic! No, really I just cook it and ferment it"
Cop "cool, can you please sign here, and keep it under Mach 1 next time?"

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Old 04-02-2013, 05:23 PM   #22
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It's super illegal and if someone got sick from drinking the beer and made a big fuss about it. You could get in a lot of trouble. What I would do is have him buy the ingredients and random equipment that you need and have him say he made it then your a** is covered.

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Old 04-02-2013, 06:22 PM   #23
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If he spends money and you give him beer it's illegal regardless of how you try to spin it. If he gives you money, it's illegal. If he buys the ingredients and you give him beer, it's illegal. If you sell him a bottle and it happens to contain beer, it's illegal. If you sell him a sticker and it comes with a free beer, it's illegal. If you give him free beer and he drops money in a tip jar, it's illegal. Whatever workaround you think of, the Feds have thought of it first. Are the chances of getting caught miniscule? Yes. Is it a good idea to discuss breaking alcohol laws on a forum that is indexed and searchable by every major search engine? No.

Your choices are to either gift him the beer or have him buy the ingredients, come over and brew the beer with you, and have him pitch the yeast. Even then, you'll need to look at your state's laws regarding the removal of homebrew from the premises and make sure the venue will allow unlicensed alcohol to be served.

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Old 04-02-2013, 06:30 PM   #24
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How to get away with things that won't hurt anyone but are technically "illegal"

Step #1: Do not post your intentions on a public web forum

Step #2: DO NOT POST YOUR INTENTIONS ON A PUBLIC WEB FORUM

Step #3: Do not publicize that he paid you for the beer. As far as guests know it was "donated"

Any questions?

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Old 04-02-2013, 06:34 PM   #25
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I kind of like the idea of selling him the wort, and let him do the rest. Technically, it's not alcohol if it's not fermented.

I'd probably get busted for that too though.

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Birthdays and Christmas are the good times of year for me and one of my good friends. It just so happens those event are about 3 months apart.

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If he buys the ingredients and you give him beer, it's illegal.
Can you expound on this one?

He bought the ingredients, you brewed it into beer, and returned the beer to him.

No money or item of value changed hands. What's the problem with this one?
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Illegal? Yep

But seriously who is going to be there that would officially complain about you supplying beer to a private event? The ATF or local liquor control doesn't go trolling weddings, birthdays or BBQ's for people to bust. Unless you have a liquor license yourself that would be in jeopardy, and/or none of it's consumed by anyone under the age, or something doesn't happen that requires a police investigation. Go for it, make and share something that you are proud of. Voluntary donations gladly accepted of course.

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Can you expound on this one?

He bought the ingredients, you brewed it into beer, and returned the beer to him.

No money or item of value changed hands. What's the problem with this one?
It's a form of bartering at that point. The ingredients are the item of value. You're not paying the money you would generally pay for those ingredients, which gives them an inherent value, in exchange you're giving him beer.
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the legality and risk management are two separate issues.

any compensation, not legal
any distribution, legality varies state to state

risk of prosecution, low

just don't believe your own BS schemes to make it legal, know the laws being broken.

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