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Old 04-02-2013, 12:52 PM   #11
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my understanding was that it was illegal to remove the beer from your home except for compitions. That being said I also think that the feds are not likely going to bother chasing (or proving) that one time when you gave 10 gallons of beer to your mate. Biggest point - how are they going to find out
Sorry Matt I didn't look to see you were in New Zealand, Go All Blacks! I live in California so I was going off our laws. I had know there is no problem giving beer away here. My LHBS serves its customers beers here and there, without charging, and it's never been an issue.
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ha well that all is great advice, one more thing though. is getting a liquor license as easy as going online and taking a test, or do i have to go through legit training or something...
We should be so lucky if it were that easy!

In short, no, lots of paperwork and you go through the TTB to do it.

I will add also, if your friend is having his party at a hotel or banquet hall he should check with them about being able to bring homebrew in as many locations will not allow it either due to state law or distribution contracts. Not sure how Oregon handles those things.............
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Just give it as a gift, and if he has to give you something, let him buy you a steak dinner.

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Old 04-02-2013, 01:22 PM   #14
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my understanding was that it was illegal to remove the beer from your home except for compitions. That being said I also think that the feds are not likely going to bother chasing (or proving) that one time when you gave 10 gallons of beer to your mate. Biggest point - how are they going to find out
Perhaps an occasional ATF agent perusing through a home brewing forum website. It could happen you know.......?
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Do you suppose you were in the middle of a sting operation and if you would have accepted payment all sort of cops would have jumped out and arrested you?

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That sounds like it could really happen...

But to get back to topic, YES, very illegal to let him pay you for the beer.
I think that him buying you stuff (other than ingredients) could also be construed as receiving "goods and services" and that can also be illegal.

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my understanding was that it was illegal to remove the beer from your home except for compitions. That being said I also think that the feds are not likely going to bother chasing (or proving) that one time when you gave 10 gallons of beer to your mate. Biggest point - how are they going to find out
I was able to do this in NC recently without a problem. I assume the hotel would be cognizant of the appropriate laws but who knows. We had a family event at a hotel in town recently where I brought two homebrew kegs that I had made for the celebration. The hotel had no problem doing it. They charged me a "corking" fee but other than that they were happy to serve it to everyone.

EDIT: I just took a look at the American Homebrewer's Association website and they have a section where you can look up the laws by state. In NC it is legal. North Carolina Chapter 18B, Article 3, §18B-306 permits an individual to make, possess, and transport native wines and malt beverages for his own use and for the use of his family and guests.

As others have mentioned, the payment is the thing that is not legal.
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ha well that all is great advice, one more thing though. is getting a liquor license as easy as going online and taking a test, or do i have to go through legit training or something...
Liquor licence as in brewing and selling beer?
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Yes it is illegal. No you won't get caught since no one really cares what goes on between two friends. IF you really want to go by the letter of the law just have him come over and pitch the yeast. That way he technically made the beer.

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Your biggest issue might be the reception hall. If they have to have a liquor license for bar service then they may not serve untaxed beer in order to protect themselves from prosecution.

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