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Old 01-16-2013, 06:11 PM   #1
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Default Lactose...again

I have searched and searched but have found no real solid answer so bear with me here.

I am designing a new recipe and looking to sweeten it a bit, the recipe is a Vanilla Espresso Stout and what I want is a sweeter edge to it. In looking around it seems that lactose is the best way to achieve this without a "cloyingly sweet" effect that you can get from Carapils/Dextrin.

I also understand you can pretty much add it whenever though the last bit of the boil seems to be the preferred addition timing so I have set myself on last 20 minutes for that.

The real question is this: I am building this for a 93+/-gal batch (3bbl) and I have seen numbers ranging from .25lbs per 5 gal batch up to 1lb per batch average, that puts me anywhere from 23lbs up to as much as 93lbs in my brew which seems an awful lot....WWHBTD?

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Old 01-16-2013, 06:16 PM   #2
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hmm...just re-read my post and I am thinking my math may have been off a bit (face of shame)

Looks like with the new numberrs I am sitting as low as 4.65lbs @ .25 per gal and as high as 18.6 @ 1lb per gal

This sounds a bit more realistic...if someone could double check me on this it would be appreciated.

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Old 01-16-2013, 06:20 PM   #3
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math looks good to me. I've used 1/2 lb. for a 5 gallon batch and it seems plenty to me.

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for a 93 gallon batch I calculate 4.65 lb also on the low end
(4 oz per 5 gallons). Would think this would be a good place to start. You could also add more at bottling if need be. (this is when I add it.)

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math looks good to me. I've used 1/2 lb. for a 5 gallon batch and it seems plenty to me.
Out of curiousity would you eliminate any dex use in a recipe using lactose or keep it for head retention purposes. Current recipe has just about an 8% amount built into it for that purpose alone.
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I used 1 lb. in my Chocolate porter recipe and it taste fine to me. Not overly sweet. That's about the maximum I've ever seen recommended though.

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I like about 1/2 to 3/4 pound per 5 gallon batch about right for my taste. A full pound is a little too sweet for me.

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Out of curiousity would you eliminate any dex use in a recipe using lactose or keep it for head retention purposes. Current recipe has just about an 8% amount built into it for that purpose alone.
I'm pretty new so I'm gonna refrain from giving an answer.
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It all depends on the recipe and where you want your FG to be. Where you want your FG to end at depends a lot on how much roast malt and hop bitterness is present.

Post the recipe and I can give you a better opinion. Also, are you sure you want to brew a 3bbl test batch?

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I find that when using lactose less is good. You can always add more when kegging or bottling if you feel it needs more. I used a pound in a milk stout a while back and I found it to be a bit much. I just kegged another batch I recently brewed up using the same recipe and cut the lactose in half. I while it is good I still think I should have used less.

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