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Old 12-15-2010, 06:54 PM   #1
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Cheers everyone!

I was just wondering if anyone is doing this and what the pros and cons were. I may have an opportunity to do this but it would be a long shot.

I really do not want to hand over my recipes to someone else and let them brew my beer for me. I want to be involved in every step of my brews. Is there another option that I can do? I have heard that there is a way for me to rent space in another brewery and use their equipment, allowing me to be responsible for every step of by beers.

In either case I am super excited about this opportunity and can't wait to see what I can turn this into. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.

cheers,

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Old 12-15-2010, 07:03 PM   #2
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What is the purpose?

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Old 12-15-2010, 07:07 PM   #3
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I live here in AZ. I'm curious which brewery? Sun Up, Sonoran, Sleepy Dog?

As for your recipes, They'll stay yours. There seems be a certain level of professional courtesy in the brewing profession. Which goes for you too: I would make sure none of the brews you plan on selling step on any toes of the breweries here in town.

I'm assuming you already have, or are, working on the legal side of things, if you are going to be labeling beer for market, you need to be a 'brewery' with the state, file all the needed forms, and pay the needed costs associated with that.

Lots of things to think about...

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Cheers everyone!
Is there another option that I can do? I have heard that there is a way for me to rent space in another brewery and use their equipment, allowing me to be responsible for every step of by beers.
Yes, this is an option, but one that requires significantly more time and money. If they take the recipe and brew it for you, you don't have to jump through any hoops. But then you also don't get as much control, as you've realized.
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+1 are they asking to buy your recipe from you? Will your name be represnted?
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Cheers everyone!

Today I was just offered a deal with a local brewery to do some contract brewing. I was just wondering if anyone is doing this and what the pros and cons were.

I really do not want to hand over my recipes to someone else and let them brew my beer for me. I want to be involved in every step of my brews. Is there another option that I can do? I have heard that there is a way for me to rent space in another brewery and use their equipment, allowing me to be responsible for every step of by beers.

In either case I am super excited about this opportunity and can'y wait to see what I can turn this into. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.

cheers,
In contract brewing you would have little involvement in brewing. Your job would be to license and sell the beers.

Alternating proprietorship is where you would lease the breweries equipment but be your own independent brewery. This is what Jamil Z is doing and he said in order to have an alternating proprietorship approved you have to have a business plan that involves getting your own equipment/building etc at some point.
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Old 12-15-2010, 08:03 PM   #7
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My purpose is to make wonderful beer that I can share with everyone. I hope to one day run a completely organic brewery where I grow all my ingredients (yeah, I know high hopes but you gotta dream big right?)

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I live here in AZ. I'm curious which brewery? Sun Up, Sonoran, Sleepy Dog?

As for your recipes, They'll stay yours. There seems be a certain level of professional courtesy in the brewing profession. Which goes for you too: I would make sure none of the brews you plan on selling step on any toes of the breweries here in town.

I'm assuming you already have, or are, working on the legal side of things, if you are going to be labeling beer for market, you need to be a 'brewery' with the state, file all the needed forms, and pay the needed costs associated with that.

Lots of things to think about...
We haven't fully finished our agreement yet so I don't think it is right for me to name names yet. But, it is a brewery in tempe and no its not 4 peaks (i wish) or sleepy dog (also a very nice brewery).

I am in the process of getting all my applications filled out and filed. I am just not exactly sure what license I need? I am thinking I need a nano brewery license (series 01 in arizona), but I am not sure since I am hoping to do the contract brewing.

Also, I do not want to step on any toes. I do know that Four Peaks 8th St. Ale is a nearly perfect pale ale and Sleepy Dog has a delicous hefe. I would hope to meerly add to the craft brewing that is going on here in town.
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Currently we are in the middle of the negotiations. The idea was literally presented to me this morning and I am trying to get some background info for when we are scheduled to meet next.
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I am still confused on what you are doing. Are you brewing your beers for them to sell? Brewing their beers for them for them to sell? What is the partnership?

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I still don't understand the point of what you are doing. You are going to have a brewery brew your beer and then you are going to drink it or give it away or sell it?

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