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Old 06-21-2010, 01:50 AM   #31
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I just got back from the NHC, and I spoke to several great brewers about my goal- trying to make a really good but lower ABV IPA. It's extremely difficult to do, and I was asking advice from some well-known brewers to try to find out what would be the best way. It's definitely not easy. Right now, my current IPA is 6%. I'd like to be able to get it to 4.75% or so, but keep the same amount of great hops flavor.

The lowest ABV beer I brewed was a mild- I think around 3%. For a party last weekend, I brewed an oatmeal stout that was 3.12%. It was perfect for a summer party, and the keg disappeared quickly!

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I just got back from the NHC, and I spoke to several great brewers about my goal- trying to make a really good but lower ABV IPA. It's extremely difficult to do, and I was asking advice from some well-known brewers to try to find out what would be the best way. It's definitely not easy. Right now, my current IPA is 6%. I'd like to be able to get it to 4.75% or so, but keep the same amount of great hops flavor.

The lowest ABV beer I brewed was a mild- I think around 3%. For a party last weekend, I brewed an oatmeal stout that was 3.12%. It was perfect for a summer party, and the keg disappeared quickly!
To be honest, I've never even thought about brewing a session IPA. I'd imagine that would be quite difficult to produce a smaller beer with enough malt profile to handle a hopping load required by an IPA.

Have you had any success with this? If so, I'd love to hear about it!
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To be honest, I've never even thought about brewing a session IPA. I'd imagine that would be quite difficult to produce a smaller beer with enough malt profile to handle a hopping load required by an IPA.

Have you had any success with this? If so, I'd love to hear about it!
Nah, this last one was supposed to be 4.9%, but I had it attenuate more than planned, finishing at 1.008. Great for the taste, but it finished at 6%! Still better than the original 7.2% but not exactly a session beer.

I'm going to try again with "maltier" malts for the malt backbone and try to keep the IBU/SG ratio the same, and shoot for a lower OG. It's definitely the most challenging beer I've been trying to make to date.

(In a slightly "in awe" category, the authority I was asking advice from was John Palmer last evening. He spent quite a long time talking about recipe creation with me. Didn't get much advice on the session IPA but he told me his thoughts on my plans for a blonde dopplebock).
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Nah, this last one was supposed to be 4.9%, but I had it attenuate more than planned, finishing at 1.008. Great for the taste, but it finished at 6%! Still better than the original 7.2% but not exactly a session beer.

I'm going to try again with "maltier" malts for the malt backbone and try to keep the IBU/SG ratio the same, and shoot for a lower OG. It's definitely the most challenging beer I've been trying to make to date.

(In a slightly "in awe" category, the authority I was asking advice from was John Palmer last evening. He spent quite a long time talking about recipe creation with me. Didn't get much advice on the session IPA but he told me his thoughts on my plans for a blonde dopplebock).
At least you're not throwing out names Yoop!!

I'm sure you'll figure it out, and when you do, you'll share it with us so we can all enjoy!

Hey, while we're on the topic of session beers, , do you have a really good recipe or know of one on here (one that you'd actually make again) for a Barley wine or RIS? I know my next brew will probably be a fruit beer, but when I buy grain, I usually buy multiple grain bills to save on shipping and I think I want to brew a large beer since I've really never brewed anything over 1.100.

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Old 06-21-2010, 03:23 AM   #35
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At least you're not throwing out names Yoop!!

I'm sure you'll figure it out, and when you do, you'll share it with us so we can all enjoy!

Hey, while we're on the topic of session beers, , do you have a really good recipe or know of one on here (one that you'd actually make again) for a Barley wine or RIS? I know my next brew will probably be a fruit beer, but when I buy grain, I usually buy multiple grain bills to save on shipping and I think I want to brew a large beer since I've really never brewed anything over 1.100.

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Not me- but Brewpastor's RIS is kick ass. He put it in the database, so you should be able to find it easily. I'm definitely no expert on big beers, but I think that the ones in the database with good reviews would be a good place to start. I really respect the experienced brewers around here, and I know you could find one there.

There's always the Palmer/Zainasheff book to fall back on if you need more ideas. I use "Brewing Classic Styles" all the time. And had both of them autograph it for me yesterday *cough *cough. (Seriously- I'm joking about the namedropping. They were awesome and it was great talking with them and I'm still a little awestruck that Palmer and I talked so long about a couple of my recipe ideas. Sorry to throw that in here, but it really IS a great book to help with a basic recipe formulation for each style).
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The friend that turned me on to home brewing is one that pretty much only brews high abv beers. His beers are good, but I always know to drink with caution.

I like to drink beer, so a lower abv is great for steady drinking. If you want to chill by the pool all day and have some beers, you can still function to hang out that night.

Drinking beer is like sex, you can pound them fast and be finished before everyone else, or take your time and enjoy the ride.

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The friend that turned me on to home brewing is one that pretty much only brews high abv beers. His beers are good, but I always know to drink with caution.

I like to drink beer, so a lower abv is great for steady drinking. If you want to chill by the pool all day and have some beers, you can still function to hang out that night.

Drinking beer is like sex, you can pound them fast and be finished before everyone else, or take your time and enjoy the ride.


That is Sig worthy !!!!!
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I brew mostly session beers. Non brewers sometimes don't understand that it's not about getting drunk for less money. It is about the process of brewing, and being able to recreate certain styles. We love to brew! Not just get drunk! He will never understand. Keep brewing those session beers!

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Not me- but Brewpastor's RIS is kick ass. He put it in the database, so you should be able to find it easily. I'm definitely no expert on big beers, but I think that the ones in the database with good reviews would be a good place to start. I really respect the experienced brewers around here, and I know you could find one there.

There's always the Palmer/Zainasheff book to fall back on if you need more ideas. I use "Brewing Classic Styles" all the time. And had both of them autograph it for me yesterday *cough *cough. (Seriously- I'm joking about the namedropping. They were awesome and it was great talking with them and I'm still a little awestruck that Palmer and I talked so long about a couple of my recipe ideas. Sorry to throw that in here, but it really IS a great book to help with a basic recipe formulation for each style).
Yeah, I've actually made a couple of recipes from that book that I've enjoyed thoroughly. I was actually already looking/comparing Jamil's Ris and Brewpastor's Ris.

I think that's awesome that you got to talk to JP for so long. That's definitely something that I'd brag about! Mr. Palmer's How to Brew is one of the reasons I finally decided to go AG. That guy is dang near godly in the homebrewing community.
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