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brewt00l · 02-03-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Halaster

The 120 I found to be decent, but not a beer I always want to have in stock. Special occasions and such yes. The Pliny beer that was mentioned I haven't found a place in IL to buy that and would love to get my hands on it. Similar to Old Chub, I have had it before when on a business trip, but can't find a store in IL that carries it.

Russian River isn't distributed to your home state so you'll either have to trade for a bottle or order one from somewhere like Liquid Solutions.

I've not had the bottled version but I understand that general feedback is that the most recent bottle run is the best yet. Fresh Pliny on tap is prb one of my all time favorites.

Bigsnake · 02-03-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pedalmedic

I'm freaking jealous. Baton Rouge has no clue on good beer. Yeah, SN, Flying Dog, and a couple of others in the Whole Foods store. But that is it. Enjoy! lucky bast@rd

I always have to bring good beer back from Houston when I make trips there. BR is hard, but not too bad. At least I can get my Orval.

Bigsnake · 02-03-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Parker36

Am I the only one who found it incredibly overrated? It was like drinking everclear infused with hops. Not for me I guess

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Originally Posted by carnevoodoo

I don't think it is THAT bad, but I do think it is overrated. It is a gimmick beer in my eyes, and nothing more.

I have to agree. I thought it was overrated. It's just too thick and sweet. It's talked about so much but not what I expected. Let's load it full of hops, make it super alcoholic, and make it sweet to help it even be drinkable. Then it ends up being so thick, it's like drinking syrup.

orangeandblue302 · 02-04-2009, 02:51 AM

if you are ever in Delaware go to Iron Hill.

<3

dontman · 02-04-2009, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by orangeandblue302

if you are ever in Delaware go to Iron Hill.

A friend brought me three 750 ml Iron Hills last weekend. The Dubbel, the Triple, and the 10th Anniversary. I found the Dubbel and the Triple both needed considerable more time in bottle. The Anniversary was perfect and very good with good balance between the malt and the alcohol bite.

OldWorld · 02-04-2009, 03:42 AM

IMO the beer is great but a stupid rip off. You can pay what you want but why not make your own IPA???

The IPA is not a science...Its hops, malt, and more malt. More hops, more malt...Lots more hops.

lasvegasculture · 02-04-2009, 01:52 PM

I have had singles on a few occasions, and bought a case a year ago for $125 and have 1 bottle left...I liked it alot, over the top hops, malt taste. except that it tasted a bit soapy. Too many bittering hops, or boiled too long, i think. It is an extreme beer tho, even if you don't like it, you gotta try it once.

would definitely buy it again. tho, i had to get on a waiting list with the master distributor in my area for 3 months to get my case

**cubbies** · 02-04-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OldWorld

IMO the beer is great but a stupid rip off. You can pay what you want but why not make your own IPA???

The IPA is not a science...Its hops, malt, and more malt. More hops, more malt...Lots more hops.

Most people dont have the capacity to mash enough grain to make a beer that is 20+% alcohol. There is a considerable amount of tinkering that goes with making a beer that extreme. The average homebrewer probably doesnt have the capabilities.

Bigsnake · 02-06-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cubbies

Most people dont have the capacity to mash enough grain to make a beer that is 20+% alcohol. There is a considerable amount of tinkering that goes with making a beer that extreme. The average homebrewer probably doesnt have the capabilities.

What yeast would you even have to use to handle that alcohol content? Do you think they get the 20% with just malt, or add some simple sugars for the yeast to feast on. I didn't think the 120 minute tasted malty enough for it to be done with all malt, but then again, my taste buds were getting attacked with hops.

jvetter · 02-06-2009, 12:56 PM

I'm sure that its not done with all malt. Some amount of simple sugar is most likely used whether its candy sugar, dextrose, or invert sugar your guess is as good as mine.

The yeast that most people in the homebrewing community are using for this is the White Labs Super High Gravity Yeast (WLP099). White labs which reports this yeast can handle up to 25% ABV. Getting a super attenuative yeast isn't that hard, its finding one that is super alcohol tolerant thats hard. You could use Champagne yeast, but even that has a much lower tolerance than the WLP099.

I'm doing a clone the 120 tomorrow (Feb 7). The details of this brew are here.