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Old 12-01-2012, 05:28 PM   #11
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ok im designing recipe today. ill use the magnum for bittering. how well will all three amarillo, citra and simcoe do in late additions?
Perfect. I use that combo all the time.

Use Magnum for bittering, I'd suggest FWH the magnum for a great rounded soft, yet strong bittering.

Then decide how you want to pile on the hops.

I'd try:

Simcoe @ 15
Citra @ 10
Simcoe @ 5
Amarillo @ 5
Citra @ 1 or flame out, whichever you want.



Dry hop it with Amarillo and Citra to finish. You'll have a nice slight piney grapefruit flavor, with some wonderful orange citrusy nose.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:48 PM   #12
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I love this part of recipe development...here's what I have, what can I make. Those are all very tasty hops, so I don't think anything you come up with will be bad.

I've only used Citra once (in combination with Amarillo), but I was very impressed with it's "potency" from an aroma perspective. I would therefore reserve a good chunk of it for dry hopping, personally. The schedule, below, is somewhat like Jamil's "Hoppiness is an IPA" recipe, substituting parts of Citra and Cascade additions for the Centennial in the original recipe:

[edited - I missed that you also have Magnum...agree to using that for the bittering addition]

.7 oz Magnum (or .75 oz Simcoe) @60
1 oz Cascade @15
1 oz Citra @10
1 oz Simcoe @ 5
1 oz Amarillo @0
Dry hop with 2 oz Simcoe + 2 oz Citra 10 days

Looks like it should give you about 64 IBU's in a 1.064 OG wort.

Have fun and let us know how it turns out!

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Old 12-01-2012, 09:02 PM   #13
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hows this? i think i should keep citra and cascade sealed for another day

first wort 80 min 0.2 Amarillo ~ pellet 7.0 » 4.7
boil 60 min 0.3 Magnum ~ pellet 14.7 » 14.1
boil 50 min 0.1 Magnum ~ pellet 14.7 » 4.5
boil 45 min 0.1 Magnum ~ pellet 14.7 » 4.3
boil 40 min 0.1 Magnum ~ pellet 14.7 » 4.1
boil 35 min 0.1 Magnum ~ pellet 14.7 » 3.9
boil 30 min 0.1 Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 2.5
boil 30 min 0.1 Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 3.3
boil 25 min 0.1 Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 2.3
boil 25 min 0.1 Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 2.9
boil 20 min 0.1 Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 2.0
boil 20 min 0.1 Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 2.6
boil 15 min 0.1 Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 1.6
boil 15 min 0.1 Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 2.1
boil 10 min 0.1 Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 1.2
boil 3 min 0.1 Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 0.4
boil 3 min 0.1 Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 0.5

Bitterness
57.2 IBU
ƒ: Tinseth
9 HBU

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Old 12-01-2012, 09:18 PM   #14
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You might want to do more 15/10/3 additions, and maybe a more substantial 60 min addition. The 50-20 aren't going to do much, and I think you'll want more flavor and aroma up front. Just my .02

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Old 12-01-2012, 11:00 PM   #15
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You might want to do more 15/10/3 additions, and maybe a more substantial 60 min addition. The 50-20 aren't going to do much, and I think you'll want more flavor and aroma up front. Just my .02
I was trying to make a combination of Yoopers DFH 60min clone and hop bursting...you dont think this is a good idea?
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I agree with those stating to fwh your bittering addition then hop-burst from 15min on. I love simcoe and amarillo together. Smells like tropical fruit and definitely has a grapefruit flavor.

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48% Great Western Premium 2-Row Malt
32% Alexander's Pale Extract
16% Alexander's Amber Extract
3% American Crystal 40L
2% Gambrinus Honey Malt

Specific Gravity
1.064 OG
1.016 FG

Color
8° SRM
17° EBC
Gold to Copper


first wort 80 min 0.2 Amarillo ~ pellet 7.0 » 4.7
first wort 80 min 0.2 Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 8.9
boil 60 min ½ Magnum ~ pellet 14.7 » 23.6
boil 15 min 0.1 Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 1.6
boil 15 min ¼ Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 4.1
boil 15 min 0.1 Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 2.1
boil 15 min ¼ Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 5.2
boil 10 min 0.1 Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 1.2
boil 10 min 0.1 Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 1.5
boil 5 min 0.1 Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 0.7
boil 5 min 0.1 Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 0.8
boil 3 min 0.1 Amarillo ~ pellet 10.3 » 0.4
boil 3 min 0.1 Simcoe ~ pellet 13.2 » 0.5

Bitterness
55.5 IBU


Yeast
American Ale 1056

My software wont allow me to change anything other than 5 minute intervals...only when under 5 min addition. I plan on adding continues hops every minute from 15 minutes to flameout...i know excessive but it gives me something to do.

What you think?

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I was trying to make a combination of Yoopers DFH 60min clone and hop bursting...you dont think this is a good idea?

You'd be better with doing a 60 min addition and then slamming it 15 minutes left in the boil and keep going until flame out.

If you want to just toss hops in, do the schedule you have there.. Will be somewhat of a waste, IMO.
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You'd be better with doing a 60 min addition and then slamming it 15 minutes left in the boil and keep going until flame out.

If you want to just toss hops in, do the schedule you have there.. Will be somewhat of a waste, IMO.
Take a look at the above post...
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I've had good luck with Simcoe and Cascade used together as late additions, and then again for dry hop. It produced an awesome grapefruit/pineapple/mango aroma.

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