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Old 03-07-2013, 02:13 PM   #1
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Default Immersion Chiller Vs 40 plate chiller

I am thinking of getting a plate chiller but I am not sure if it would improve my chilling speed so I wanted to ask here .. Also does anyone that have a plate chiller submerges their chiller to make sure the wort cools even faster?

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Old 03-07-2013, 02:17 PM   #2
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I've never used an immersion chiller.

From the get go I picked up a 20 plate Duda Diesel plate chiller.

http://www.dudadiesel.com/choose_item.php?id=HX2320BWGH

It works very well on 5 and 10 gallon batches. We've never had a need to submerge it in water to reduce the temps. We just run regular water garden water through it and regulate the flow of the wort with a ball valve. After we're done we back purge it right away to clean it out.

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Old 03-07-2013, 02:22 PM   #3
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I get below 70F using 58F tap water on a 50' stainless IC in under 10 minutes (5 gallons in Keggle) or 12 minutes (10 gallons in Keggle).

Hard for us to know if you'll get better performance if you don't let us know what you're currently getting.

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Right now im using a 25ft ic but in south florida the water temperatures rarely go below 78 or so, with this in mind it takes me about 20 minutes to bring down my 5 gallon batches and almost 30 + minutes on 10 gallon .. I've thought of getting a ss ic or even up grade it to 50 ft but after reading of the plate chiller i had to ask if its worth it since its smaller and it looks like it would do a better job.

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Old 03-07-2013, 03:23 PM   #5
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Just had a chat about this the other day with someone and here is my suggestion.

Keep the 50' IC and set it in a bucket to cool the wort.
Get or make anothe 25'IC that sits in a bucket of ice and only runs water from the hose through it and feeds that water to the bucket containing the 50'IC.

You will use less ice cooling tap water and you should be able to regulate to whatever temp you need through waterflow and wort flow combinations. You will also be able to get far colder temps than you want so it will take some monitoring and testing to get right.

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Old 03-07-2013, 05:43 PM   #6
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The system would work like this. First the wort would be cooled using the CFC and once it gets down to about 100f the IC would be used as a prechiller. Its simple just submerge the IC in a bucket of water using ice, or frozen water bottles from the freezer.

The reason for not getting a plate chiller for me is price. I already have an IC but, also I realize that there will be a need to use a pump sometime in the future with higher volumes. A CFC is not that much money to make. Maybe it will cost less than 50 USD. If I am dissatisfied I could always put the CFC and IC up for sale on Craigslist and for a few dollars more could purchase a plate chiller, but I think this system would work better than a plate chiller.

I think it will work awesome, but it’s still a work in progress.

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The Duda Diesel has worked well for me on a gravity system... No need to pre-chill where I live, though I could see where such might be useful in certain areas...

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The issue he is going to run into with a plate chiller is his water temp which doesn't cross much below 78*
This will be the limiting factor to how cool he can get the wort so either way he will need a way to cool the water going into the plate chiller or hope that a fan on it will do enough to get to pitching temp (doubtful but possible).

With the dual coil setup it is cheap and efficient compared to a plate that may not work...or buy a plate and use the 50' IC he has to cool the tap water going into the plate chiller to bring it down. It will save money on ice needed as 80* water will melt the ice a lot slower than a hot wort passing through it will.

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I am thinking of getting a plate chiller but I am not sure if it would improve my chilling speed so I wanted to ask here .. Also does anyone that have a plate chiller submerges their chiller to make sure the wort cools even faster?
I've used both a copper IC and a 40 plate chiller with a pump. The plate chiller cools it down much faster than the IC. I have no need to put it in an ice bucket...it cools so fast that it's not worth the extra effort. What I normally do is recirculate the wort through the pump, plate chiller, and back into the kettle. I do this with high-temp silicon tube submerged to reduce HSA. When the kettle temperature is within a few degrees of the output thermometer on my plate chiller, I raise the silicon tube and allow the wort to splash an airate naturally while I run in until it looks like it has developed sufficient foam, then I run it straight into the fermenter.
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I use a 40plate chiller and my ground water is super cold. It is the best thing ever!! Saves lots of time and makes a great cold break. I'd never go back.

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