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Old 07-01-2011, 02:02 PM   #1
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I hate snobs of all kinds but have a special place of distain for beer snobs in my heart.

Was listening to the ticket (dallas radio sports station) and there was a very rare beer talk segment this morning, and after the discussion they take some calls. Well 2nd or 3rd caller calls in and starts off with "you should watch a documentary called Beer wars and you'll never drink big companies stuff again. They're bullies".

I'm going to try not to make too many references to that hack job of a documentary that makes bold ridiculous claims such as big beer companies "force consumers to use their products" b/c of their marketing practices. Yeah that’s it, Bud has figured out how make me drink there beer because they advertise during the superbowl. I also only eat doritoes b/c of that too and not because I like them.

I digress, my point is he started out saying watch this movie and you'll never drink there beer again. Why can't people think for themselves? Why couldn't he come up with a single argument of his own design?

When people tell me to watch this or watch that to prove a point- it's usually a red flag to me that they are not knowledgeable themselves enough about something to form their own opinions. You might as well be saying "I'm too dumb to know, watch this".

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Well...a lot of people never touched McD's after 'supersize me' came out. Sometimes documentaries can hold a lot of sway over the populous. I know I took a 3 month hiatus before the big mac finally called me back.

With beer snobs, I don't like to say this (well maybe I do because I consider myself one), I like to think we've simply made it to the promised land where other people are still searching. We've discovered the 'wee' heavys, the dogfish 90 min ipa's, heck...even the new castles and blue moons, and know what it is to enjoy a good brew. We can appreciate a good beer for being a good beer and know we drink them to get more than a buzz.

There is a dark side to becoming a beer snob even though the beer is better. The down side is I used to enjoy beers like miller lite and coors lite and now I only drink them on rare occassions. Even yuengling doesn't really do it for me anymore. So you're spending about 2x what you were on beers before.

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Also I hate the fact that people like that associate themselves with homebrewers and beer lovers. Makes us all look like we're fanatical anti big beer companies. Not everyone things InBev is the evil empire. I dont set at home and draw x's over the Busch family's pictures and throw darts at them but I do love beer. Don't want the homebrewer and microbrewery community labled that way.

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Drink what you like and give the one finger salute to those who criticize your tastes. Big company brew, micro brew, home brew - JUST HAVE A BREW!

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also i hate the fact that people like that associate themselves with homebrewers and beer lovers. Makes us all look like we're fanatical anti big beer companies. Not everyone things inbev is the evil empire. I dont set at home and draw x's over the busch family's pictures and throw darts at them but i do love beer. Don't want the homebrewer and microbrewery community labled that way.
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Oh yeah, don't forget that to be a "beer wars beer snob" you also have to hate come segments of the craft beer industry as well. I figured that out when inbev bought goose island.


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So I'm trying to figure out the rules for being an EAC (look it up) Beersnob of the "Beer Wars" Variety. As opposed to just a normal beersnob, like I consider myself, who enjoys great beer, but doesn't give a care what other folks choose to drink, nor has fault with making money or running a business (which is really ironic since I'm a "bleeding heart" liberal and therefore I'm supposed to not eat meat, wear leather, believe in capitalism or shave my legs.) And occasionally drinks things like PBR and Labatt's.

We have to hate BMC because they are the big evil corporate empire, and because their beer is the most popular on the planet and therefore it is crap.

But we ALSO have to hate the following micro/craft brewers mostly because they are too popular and/or they're not us and we're jealous. Maybe it's barrel size? If you are too big, meaning big sales then you suck?

We have to hate New Belgium Brewing Company, because frat boys like Fat Tire and therefore it sucks.

We Have to hate Dogfish Head and Sam Caligione because he had a tv show on discovery channel, and therefore his beer sucks.

We have to hate Jim Koch and Sam Adams because he runs commercials and sells a lot of beer, Sometimes he needs to have third party brewers contract brew it to meet demand, and therefore it sucks, DESPITE the fact that He supports homebrewing on so many levels including and not limited to making hops available to homebrewers during the hops shortage AND hosting the Longshot competition which gives a chance for homebrewers to have their beer brewed professionally, and showcased to a huge audience, but of course those folks who enter and win are actually not real homebrewers but poseur sellouts who's beer sucks (because it's not any of us who won.)

We have to hate Bell's brewery because he decided to protect his trade mark and therefore he must care about making money so his beer sucks (and he probably sleeps with sheep or something.)

Have I missed any? Do we hate Stone and Rogue because they paint their bottles and make it hard to re-use them and therefore their beers suck? Or are they for some reason "ok?"

Boy it's so hard to be a beer lover these days, with so many rules to follow. It used to be we just had to like good beer, whatever OUR definition of it was....../Sarcasm


Oh yeah and now we're supposed to hate Goose Island, because they completed a deal that they've been involved with for 5 years and partnered even more fully with AHB. So that means they're sellout bastards and even though we LOVED Bourbon County Stout...it sucks...even though it's been made under that partnership for years. It now is crap.
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For the record my point wasn't so much about homebrews/mircobrews/artisan crafted beers being better than InBev's line, it's more just let people enjoy what they want and think for yourself.

I'm not opposed to documentaries but I am to closed minded thinking and there's not many times people step outside the box to think about things.

I remember Farenheit 9/11 coming out and seeing that and I pretty much knew, I knew that 9/11 was an inside job and the government did it. There was no way you could convince me other wise. Now that I'm a little older, I realize I don't "know" that. Sometimes documentaries are just very cleverly disguised propaganda and does a great job of preying on people with weaker minds.

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Oh yeah, don't forget that to be a "beer wars beer snob" you also have to hate come segments of the craft beer industry as well. I figured that out when inbev bought goose island.

I figured it out back when Goose island was bought.
Yeah, I was very suprised when I found out how many respected good beers InBev now owns and produces. But they're bully's, having more money and trying to make a profit and be the best is just an azzhole thing to do
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