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Old 04-25-2013, 08:03 PM   #1
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Default I love Rampant IPA

I can't get enough of this stuff... I believe I taste simcoe in the finish, maybe some cascade. Does anyone have any ideas on making a clone?

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Old 04-25-2013, 08:23 PM   #3
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Thanks, didn't check the obvious I guess.

They probably use corn sugar or something to dry it out as much as it is.

So mosaic, calypso, centennial.

Probably bittered with the first two as well as heavy late and dry hops. Modest dose of Centennial in the late addition and dryhop.

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I was quite impressed with this beer too. I saw a couple of grocery stores here that are carrying it had it the same price as other NB beers. One grocery store here puts NB on sale for 4.99/6-pack at least a couple times a year, so I think I know what I'll buy a case of the next time that comes up.

I love how this beer tastes like a big fruity mess. Peaches, citrus and dry - just a great beer. I love O'dell's myrcenary, but a four pack for over 10 bucks just isn't as good a deal.

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over easter i had both rampant and ranger. gotta say that i preferred the ranger. maybe i got a bad batch, or it wasn't sufficiently fresh, but i thought the rampant was too sweet. i didn't get the mosaic hops at all, and it's one of my favorites (it goes into all my IPAs).

i really liked the chinook flavors in the ranger.

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Probably bittered with the first two as well as heavy late and dry hops. Modest dose of Centennial in the late addition and dryhop.
it would be kinda silly of them to bitter with an expensive hop like mosaic. i would suspect that they bitter with calypso only.
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Does anyone else get a HUGE floral nose from Rampant? I don't dislike it--in fact, Sweetcell, you can any Ranger that might have been fated for me b/c I don't care for it--I just can't believe how it smells like sweet wildflowers. Tried two bottles so far... both the same.

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Old 04-25-2013, 11:12 PM   #7
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over easter i had both rampant and ranger. gotta say that i preferred the ranger. maybe i got a bad batch, or it wasn't sufficiently fresh, but i thought the rampant was too sweet. i didn't get the mosaic hops at all, and it's one of my favorites (it goes into all my IPAs).
You got a bad batch, I picked up a six of it a week or two ago which was sitting outside the cold case. It was mostly malt sweetness with a hint of it's aroma. A fresh bottle has a huge stone fruit nose and a good amount of hop flavor.
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Never had it, but I'm going to try to clone it for you from reading reviews and posts. What fun!

I'd say the floral notes are Centennial, as they are famous for that character.

I keep hearing the beer is very peachy/fruity, which sounds like a bunch of Mosaic. From drinking a Mosaic SMaSH, Mosaic has tons of peach and blueberry. I think WDT may have gotten too old of a bottle.

Calypso is very candy-like, Watermelon/Apple Jolly Rancher, pear, etc, My guess is Calypso is the bittering charge, maybe a 15/30 minute addition. The market on them is REALLY cooling off as they are really cloying/weird.


So, let's start with a base of 2-row, and a touch of C-120.. regardless of whether they claim they use it, some reviews show up some toffee notes. Going to throw in a few ounces of Biscuit for a little breadiness/malt. We can work back on the attenuation, building a 8.5% ABV and then measuring the attenuation through the calories listed.

Listed at 70% efficiency, add/subtract base malt as needed. 5 gallon batch.

14.5 LBs 2-Row
3 oz C-120
3 oz Biscuit
8 oz Dextrose

1.0 oz Calypso @ 60 Minutes
1.0 oz Calpyso @ 20 Minutes
1.0 oz Centennial @ 10 Minutes
1.0 oz Mosaic @ 5 Minutes
1.0 oz Mosaic @ Knockout
1.0 oz Centennial @ 7 Days
1.0 oz Mosaic @ 7 Days

you need 80-82% attenuation to nail the numbers. Mash lower, ie 148-150 for 75 minutes if using US-05. Use 05, not 1056, as the S-05 carries some nice peach esters at 60-65 F. You really need to ferment at that temp.

The hop bill might need a little adjustment, but it's got the right idea. Maybe dry-hopping with .5 oz Centennial/.5 oz Calypso, but up to you.

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Cool thanks!

Black malt is listed in the malts. I feel with 85 IBUs, i'd shift the hop profile around.

S-05 is a great idea, ferment it cooler than normal. Probably want it to finish out under 1.010 if possible. This thing has a huge aroma to it too. I think maybe doubling the dry hop would be in order.

I've never had calypso hops before, but i've tasted mosaic (or what I thought to be) in the new SA Latitude 48. Very fruity.

I took your malt bill and tweaked it a bit and your hop schedule.

Fermentables
Amount Fermentable Bill %
14 lb American - Pale 2-Row 91.4%
2 oz American - Black Malt 0.8%
1 lb Corn Sugar - Dextrose 6.5%
3 oz Belgian - Biscuit 35 1.2%

15.31 lb Total


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Amount Variety Time
1 oz Calypso 90 min
0.5 oz Calypso 20 min
0.5 oz Centennial 20 min
1 oz mosaic 20 min
1 oz mosaic 0 min
1 oz Calypso 0 min
1 oz mosaic 7 days
0.5 oz Calypso 7 days
0.5 oz Centennial 7 days



I have a few bottles at home, i will degas some and figure out what the final gravity is on this thing to work backwards a little better.

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I guess I am going to have to give this one another try. I must have had a bad batch. The sixer I had of it was some of the most rancid, wet-hay tasting crap I have ever had.

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