I guess you have a point.
 

I went all-grain 4 batches ago, and I guess now I understand why people get so upset about cloudy beer. Holy hell, I can read through this. :D

How long was your beer in the primary? Did you cold crash prior to kegging/bottling?

Primary for 5 weeks, no cold crash.

My beers got clearer after I went AG, but most likely it wasn't AG as much as it was experience. I started temp controlled fermentation, kegging, adding gelatin finings, and cold crashing at the same time. I want to go back and re-brew my first extract and partial mash batches, I think they all would be better now.

I ferment in only a primary for 3 weeks, don't use gelatin and only use Irish Moss sometimes. I keg, let it condition in the keg for 1-2 weeks then into the kegerator. After the first half pint is poured, it's always crystal clear. The few times I've naturally conditioned a keg, it wasn't quite a clear but clearer than if I bottled.