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Old 12-31-2012, 02:38 PM   #131
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Budweiser isn't thoughtfully made?

And what does batch size have to do with it, and how is smallish "defined"? The term "craft" had to be coined after microbreweries like Sam Adams and Sierra Nevada outgrew the legal term "micro."
Budweiser is made by a company who's primary business plan is to make as much money as possible off of people who drink nothing but light lagers. I choose to support companies whose business model is to make most of their money from producing the types of beer I enjoy consuming.

Did I say anything about "craft"? I used the term "smallish" for a reason. I didn't want to narrow it down to a set number of barrels.
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:54 PM   #132
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For me, it comes down to what sort of people and business model I want to support. I'm passionate about flavorful beer that is thoughtfully made in smallish batches. I want my money to support people and companies who share that passion. That passion does not extend to groceries. It's fallacious of you to think that my passion for one category of product should extend to an overarching philosophy that dictates all of my purchases.
Here's the difference between some of us, though!

I DO have my "passion for one category of product extend to an overarching philosophy that dictates all of my purchases". I really do.

I buy local grass-fed beef (and chicken, and lamb, and eggs), do not buy or eat anything out of a package, and don't go to Wal-Mart or B/P gas stations. I don't buy anything produced by InBev, and I grow my own veggies to avoid Monsanto. I don't buy anything (clothing) made out of the US- which is almost impossible I'll have you know! But I do it anyway. I'm upset that my March pump was put together in Mexico, but it was the only choice for me for a pump.

I'm not saying everybody should do what I do- it's MY belief system. It's not about the product produced (even Woolrich clothes are made in China)- it's simply standing by what I think is right.

If someone else has no qualms about drinking mass quantities of InBev products, that's fine for them. And we all know that there are millions and millions of them, since InBev is so successful. It's not about being snobbish about the quality for me, and I don't think that they make bad products. They just aren't something I can purchase.
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:55 PM   #133
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I found Beer Wars on Hulu and watched the first third of it or so. What I saw, and maybe I missed some, was that if anyone was to blame for the 3 getting so big it was the little guys who took the money they offered to close their doors. Had they have loved their business more than making money there'd have been more variety and those 3 would have had less market share.

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I found Beer Wars on Hulu and watched the first third of it or so. What I saw, and maybe I missed some, was that if anyone was to blame for the 3 getting so big it was the little guys who took the money they offered to close their doors. Had they have loved their business more than making money there'd have been more variety and those 3 would have had less market share.
Wait, you mean the companies that sold to In-bev did so willingly? Reading parts of this thread, you'd think In-bev was akin to Nazi Germany storming through Europe in the 30s.

There, thread officially Godwin'ed.
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:10 PM   #135
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Here's the difference between some of us, though!

I DO have my "passion for one category of product extend to an overarching philosophy that dictates all of my purchases". I really do.

I buy local grass-fed beef (and chicken, and lamb, and eggs), do not buy or eat anything out of a package, and don't go to Wal-Mart or B/P gas stations. I don't buy anything produced by InBev, and I grow my own veggies to avoid Monsanto. I don't buy anything (clothing) made out of the US- which is almost impossible I'll have you know! But I do it anyway. I'm upset that my March pump was put together in Mexico, but it was the only choice for me for a pump.

I'm not saying everybody should do what I do- it's MY belief system. It's not about the product produced (even Woolrich clothes are made in China)- it's simply standing by what I think is right.

If someone else has no qualms about drinking mass quantities of InBev products, that's fine for them. And we all know that there are millions and millions of them, since InBev is so successful. It's not about being snobbish about the quality for me, and I don't think that they make bad products. They just aren't something I can purchase.
Well put.

I have nothing against people who apply this line of thinking to all of their purchases. I just think that the "you only buy beer from small companies so you should buy everything from small companies or else you're a hypocrite" argument is ridiculous.
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All BMC sucks. my pony make enough for a small town. they are evil corporate fiends hell bent on destroying real beer! but I don't care who makes it if it's good. drink what you like. and all the people that bash any beer drinker because they drink what they like or BMC are stupid! what are we talking about again?

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You know what making those types of comments without responding to the topic of the thread is like, right?
Are most people -really- responding to OP? It's just turned into "Does InBev suck or not" again.
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Are most people -really- responding to OP? It's just turned into "Does InBev suck or not" again.
At least most people are at least tangentially on topic.
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Old 12-31-2012, 04:15 PM   #139
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Are most people -really- responding to OP? It's just turned into "Does InBev suck or not" again.
How can they seriously respond to a 'what if' question that is pretty far fetched? I'm amazed people have taken the energy to respond. .

I will presently start a thread titled What if? and begin it thusly:

What if a what if question was being ignored and instead people repeated their opinion for the hundredth time.
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What if a what if question was being ignored and instead people repeated their opinion for the hundredth time.
That would be genius. I would be up for that.
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