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Old 08-26-2009, 05:34 PM   #21
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Personally, I find that when I stay away from red meat and eat lots of veggies, beans and whole grains, I can stay pretty slim regardless of how well I drink.
That's primarily because red meat is far more calorie dense than veggies. You'd have to eat over 3.5 lbs of carrots to equal the calories of a 12 oz. New York strip.
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Old 08-26-2009, 05:42 PM   #22
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I'm will EvilGnome6 on this one too. The equation is as simple as Calories In-Calories out.

A positive number and you gain weight, a negative one and you lose weight.

This is assuming that what you are eating is "balanced" meaning that within that daily Calorie limit you are also satisfying your nutritional needs for Carbs, Protein, and Fat. In other words, you can't get away by eating nothing but Twinkies to satisfy your total calories needs for the day.
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:13 PM   #23
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I think we're saying the same thing - I just think eating a balanced diet is far more important than watching calories. If you reduce your caloric intake by consuming more processed crap like Diet Coke, diet bars, etc, you end up overburdening your liver with poison. That reduces your body's ability to excise some of that hard-to-burn fat in your belly and elsewhere. You might call that a multiplier to the calories in, calories out equation.

If you just watch your diet and eat things that are good for you, your caloric intake is generally going to go down. It might go up in some cases - homebrewed beer vs. commercial beer - but the nutritional impact is still going to be a net positive based on the increased level of micronutrients your body can utilize from the yeast, its B vitamins and the lack of additives.

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Old 08-26-2009, 06:16 PM   #24
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Yea, I just rock beersmith, it at least tells you calories per pint. My DFH 120 clone has close to 1000 cal/pint DOH! Thank god i would never drink a whole pint of that stuff, its like half my freaking daily consumption.
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Eat well, stay active, worry more about a balanced diet than calories. That's my motto.
Sorry. I didn't mean to imply that I don't think one should worry about eating a balanced diet. If it works for you and you can maintain/lose weight without tracking calories, then by all means, stick to it.

For me, counting calories has been extremely helpful in determining what portion sizes are actually reasonable to lose/maintain weight. It also helped me adjust my diet to get the right proportions of macro nutrients without making huge sacrifices in what I eat, just how much and how often.
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I think we're saying the same thing - I just think eating a balanced diet is far more important than watching calories. If you reduce your caloric intake by consuming more processed crap like Diet Coke, diet bars, etc, you end up overburdening your liver with poison. That reduces your body's ability to excise some of that hard-to-burn fat in your belly and elsewhere. You might call that a multiplier to the calories in, calories out equation.
I would go and say that a balanced diet an calorie counting are EQUALLY important, and would respectfully disagree with everything else. I'm not a big believer in that whole "diet foods contain toxins" theory, although I do agree that it is good to restrict consumption of the so-called diet foods and stick with, well...real food.

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If you just watch your diet and eat things that are good for you, your caloric intake is generally going to go down. It might go up in some cases - homebrewed beer vs. commercial beer - but the nutritional impact is still going to be a net positive based on the increased level of micronutrients your body can utilize from the yeast, its B vitamins and the lack of additives.
I think you would be hard-pressed to convince a nutritionist that homebrewed beer is better for you than commercial beer, just because it has higher levels of Vit. B. A balanced diet will provide you with more than enough Vit. B and more isn't necessarily better. Furthermore, if you look at a can of your favorite commercial beer, you would find that it is surprisingly additive-free. It does not require any preservatives or stabilizers (b/c it is pasteurized and contains alcohol- a natural anti-microbial) nor any artificial flavorings/colors.

If anything, I would say your favorite homebrew is WORSE for you than that commercial homebrew. Homebrews typically contain higher levels of alcohol, which is metabolized directly into fat by the liver. Commercial beers are typically lower alcohol. All the Vit. B in the world isn't going to counteract that. Sorry...
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I'm will EvilGnome6 on this one too. The equation is as simple as Calories In-Calories out.
The problem with that is theres no good way to determine Calories out. People burn calories at different rates.
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The problem with that is theres no good way to determine Calories out. People burn calories at different rates.
Trial and error. Track your calories consumed as well as your weight. After a month or two you can calculate pretty closely how many calories you burn on average per day. Since 1lb. = 3500 calories, you can control your weight by adjusting your daily calories.
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I'll confess that I don't have an article on hand, but I've read many places about the additives that the major domestics put into the beer and its effects on hangover. I don't know about craft brewers though - granted, that's all I drink anyway.

I'm not going to budge about commercial beer vs. homebrewed beer though. I feel less of a hangover when I drink homebrewed beer the next morning. My blood sugar feels less out of whack, I don't feel compelled to take a vitamin to "get right", I don't crave greasy eggs, I don't need coffee to get through the morning. That's with the higher alcoholic content. To me that's a clearer sign than anything that homebrewed beer has more stuff in it to help you process the alcohol you're consuming and ward off its ill effects on your bodily functions.
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well you got 7 cal/g of alcohol, 9 for fat, and 4 for carbs and protein.
As far as I know, beer has no fat, so count that out.

You know the abv, so you can find out your calories from alcohol
ex, 12 oz. brew of 7% is 12*28*.07*7 =~ 164 (28 grams per ounce)
so 165 just from alcohol.

carbs, not sure how to measure that.. but you figure low carb beers are 2-3 carbs, high carb beers are low 20's (creamy stouts, tripels)
with your average at probably around 10-15.
so that's 40-60 on average calories from carbs.

not sure about protein, but again, probably negligible.

So find out your calories from alcohol, and add anywhere from 30-70, that should cover it.

for the dogfish head 120 IPA clone, if it's 20% abv, a pint has over 600 cals just from the alcohol alone. however, it would have to have 100 carbs for the additional 400 cals.. which i think is highly doubtful.

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