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Old 03-16-2010, 04:04 PM   #11
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Six kilograms is a pretty big beer. Six pounds is more standard.

A very simple recipe might be:

6 lbs. LME
Couple ounces hops
Yeast

Add ~1/2 lb. specialty grains, and you have a pretty decent brew.

[ADD: this would a 5 gallon, 19L recipe. For 23L you might need to add ~20% more]

You could save money by going all grain. Or you could save by replacing the LME with table sugar, but that's how you get watery beer.

I believe 'premium' kits are the ones without sugar. Those would be better. I do believe that the sort of national pre-packaged kits you buy at your LHBS (Munton's Connoissuer, True Brew, or whatever) are less of a bargain. If your LHBS assmebles its own kits, those are often a decent deal.

Anyway, where not making porgress in this thread because we're torn between (a) less expensive beer and (b) more fully flavored beer.

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Old 03-16-2010, 04:15 PM   #12
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Six kilograms is a pretty big beer. Six pounds is more standard.

A very simple recipe might be:

6 lbs. LME
Couple ounces hops
Yeast

Add ~1/2 lb. specialty grains, and you have a pretty decent brew.

[ADD: this would a 5 gallon, 19L recipe. For 23L you might need to add ~20% more]

You could save money by going all grain. Or you could save by replacing the LME with table sugar, but that's how you get watery beer.

I believe 'premium' kits are the ones without sugar. Those would be better. I do believe that the sort of national pre-packaged kits you buy at your LHBS (Munton's Connoissuer, True Brew, or whatever) are less of a bargain. If your LHBS assmebles its own kits, those are often a decent deal.

Anyway, where not making porgress in this thread because we're torn between (a) less expensive beer and (b) more fully flavored beer.
That sounds more reasonable, can you direct me to a quick guide for extract and all grain brewing? Do you have any experience with the premium kits, I stayed away from them because I had visions of them being of similar quality to the £10 kits for twice the price.

£20-£30 per 5 gallons would be fine.

Thanks.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:16 PM   #13
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I don't think you'll save money by buying extract ingredients separately. In fact, at most places I've seen, extrcat kits are cheaper than buying the individual ingredeints.
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I have no idea where you are looking. I've never seen kits cheaper than buying straight extract.


OP, are you using the Kit and Kilo type kits? (IE, a can of LME, and a couple pounds of sugar?)
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:17 PM   #14
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That sounds more reasonable, can you direct me to a quick guide for extract and all grain brewing? Do you have any experience with the premium kits, I stayed away from them because I had visions of them being of similar quality to the £10 kits for twice the price.

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I have no idea where you are looking. I've never seen kits cheaper than buying straight extract.


OP, are you using the Kit and Kilo type kits? (IE, a can of LME, and a couple pounds of sugar?)
I've been using these style:

http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/index....tout-40pt.html

They're £10 each

1.5kg (3.3lb) of extract is just over £10 from the same store.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:42 PM   #16
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[QUOTE=Synovia;1947901]I have no idea where you are looking. I've never seen kits cheaper than buying straight extract.
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Well, I've checked recipes at places like Northern Brewer, and they are the same price or even slightly less. The 'slightly less' may be due to odd amounts, e.g., the kit includes .25 ounce of a hop that you can only buy by the full ounce. So maybe they're the same cost, not less.

Forrest from Austin Homebrew has also said his kits cost what the ingredients cost. So again, maybe they're not cheaper, but they're not more expensive.

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www.howtobrew.com you might also add some steeping grains. That made a big difference when I was evolving by brewing style.
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Dextrose in the UK is know as "brewing sugar" you LHBS will stock it.

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Maltodextrin is sold as "Beer kit enhancer" made by Muntons.
Maltodextrin is 50% dextrose an 50% dried malt extract.

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I've been using these style:

http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/index....tout-40pt.html

They're £10 each

1.5kg (3.3lb) of extract is just over £10 from the same store.
They're so cheap because they're only half a kit really.
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