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Old 01-25-2010, 05:09 AM   #1
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Tonight as I was auto-syphoning a finished batch from the fermenter to my keg I got about 2/3 of the way down when I noticed a small black ring around the inside of my auto-syphon hose (where the hose connects to the plastic auto-syphon wand). A closer look revealed mold of some sort. It was stuck and not really moving but it was there. Plenty of beer passed over this spot before I stopped, cut it off, resoaked and finished it off.

I did inspect for this before I put the AS into the bucket of idophor solution and it appeared to be ok but I didn't look that closely to it.

I should add that before syphoning the beer I emptied (with the AS) an entire 5 gallon keg full of idophor solution to another before I let it soak inside the solution for another 10 minutes until I was ready for it. If there was any loose bacteria I suppose it had been washed out during the first 5 gallon drain.

Anyways I've seen beer be both incredibly resilient but tempermental too. How bad is this, really?

Also, on the topic of equipment at what point do you guys retire old plastic brewing gear? I've got two year old buckets and bungs that looked discolored and I'm wondering how long it is until one of these things become more of a risk then they are worth.



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Old 01-25-2010, 05:12 AM   #2
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if it was in fact actually mold, then I think it could be dangerous. If just a little bit of that mold came through with the beer that passed over it, then it could definitely spoil the enter batch



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Old 01-25-2010, 05:21 AM   #3
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You will probably end up with an infection if you store the keg at room temperature. Sanitizers don't really work unless the surface is totally clean and free from junk. Well, I guess it is possible that you won't get an infection, but I wouldn't risk it. I would stick it in your kegerator immediately and drink it asap. At serving temps the bacteria should not be able to ruin your beer, at least not for a while.

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Old 01-25-2010, 05:32 AM   #4
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You will probably end up with an infection if you store the keg at room temperature. Sanitizers don't really work unless the surface is totally clean and free from junk. Well, I guess it is possible that you won't get an infection, but I wouldn't risk it. I would stick it in your kegerator immediately and drink it asap. At serving temps the bacteria should not be able to ruin your beer, at least not for a while.
I moved it to the kegerator as soon as I was done in hopes that I could slow any activity.

Sad thing is beer gets better with age...probably not this one : (
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Can mold survive in environments with no oxygen? I wonder.. If they can't, then blast that CO2!

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Would campden tablets help?

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Would campden tablets help?
I'm not even sure I know what that is? I hooked us the CO2 after the beer chlled overnight. Anything I can do to make the environment inhospitable to it would be nice.

Again the actual amount ppm of mold that got in there had to be unbelieveably small, I've probably eaten more by ingesting a slice of old cheese. Thing is I've never created this problem for myself so I don't know what to expect.
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I thought I'd post a follow up to this post a month later since inevitably someone will search the archives for making a similar boo-boo. I know most of you said this batch would be ruined subject to the above described circumstances but I am pleased to report 4 weeks later you could not be more wrong. The beer gets better with each successive draw.

Got lucky? Probably, even the brewmaster at the LHBS said "Dump it". Glad I didn't. I can only suppose the surface tension of liquid where the hose met the autosyphon may have actually drawn the beer over the connection where the mold was rather than through it?

Whatever happened still getting lots of use out of this batch. It'll be gone for sure before we ever find out how it ages.

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Old 02-21-2010, 03:14 AM   #9
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That's awesome dusk, glad to see it worked out OK for you. I hate hearing that people have to dump a batch. Have you replaced that hose yet?

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I have drunk stuff with mold floating on top of it....A little in a beer wouldnt be a big deal...LOL!



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